Surrey RoadSafe is a partnership between the county's police force and council "working to reduce the number of people killed and seriously injured on Surrey roads". So, what are we focusing on today? Speeding? Drink driving? Mobile phone use? Anti-social behaviour on the roads? Oh, right... telling cyclists how to ride to help improve visibility so... they don't get hit by drivers...
"Car/bike collisions can be avoided," we're told. "Use defensive action to ride safer!" the video continues. Because, as the graphic goes on to imply, if someone fails to give way and pulls out in front of you, causing a collision, the action we should all be seeking, to avoid such incidents is... cyclists riding in the middle of their lane so they are more visible.
Needless to say the Surrey RoadSafe partnership got plenty of feedback under the post... from those calling the advice "victim blaming", through to people pointing out it might be slightly useful to instead ask the cause of the collision pictured not to... well, you know... crash into cyclists because you didn't look properly to see an oncoming road user when pulling out at a junction?
Bob From Accounts called the video "victim blaming 101" and suggested "separate infrastructure is the only solution". VNS added that as cyclists we already know about riding in primary position in certain situations as it can be safer. Rather, he said, "It's drivers who think cyclists are being inconsiderate for doing this. Please also educate drivers. Drivers being the ones who are responsible for collisions like this."
Matthew: "Yeah, because it's definitely not the drivers failing to look properly. All you're doing is empowering drivers to blame cyclists for 'not riding correctly, so I couldn't see them'."
RedLaser4000: "Is this real? That was the fault of the driver pulling out without looking!"
Mustapha Cycle: "Nothing wrong with cyclists improving their visibility but maybe focus on the real offenders and less on the victims. Enforce the Highway Code rigidly and get the standard of driving back on track to an acceptable level."
Tim Pryce: "Problem is drivers then yell at you and close pass you for being 'in the middle of the road'."
Ian Bradbury: "We know and we do. The people you should direct this at are the drivers screaming 'get out of the middle of the road' and the eejits who paint murder strips at the side of the road and pretend they are cycle provision."
Incidentally, the UK's head of roads policing recently spoke at-length about her wishes for making the roads safer, highlighting the key areas of concern that addressing would bring about real-world change and a reduction in the number of deaths and serious injuries.
Jo Shiner urged stricter sentences for driving offences and warned that the "basic standard of driving has reduced" and puts cyclists and pedestrians at risk. She also suggested that deaths on the UK's roads have become "unseen" due to their frequency.
"We have over 1,700 deaths a year on our roads, we have got to look at it differently," she said. "Sometimes the reporting of those people who are killed or seriously injured barely features in the local papers anymore.
"Anti-social driving is really prevalent on our roads at the moment and we know that it is causing a lot of collisions and I think that's where in terms of the punishment fitting the crime we do need greater deterrence.
"So one of our focuses within our portfolio is on greater sentencing, so the ability for us to be able to actually increase the sentences which both magistrates and other courts can give, but also greater sentences.
"What I mean by that is that if you actually compare some of the sentences the drivers who do kill people because of the way in which they've drive on the roads versus maybe some other crimes in society, predominantly you see that those sentences are lower and that's just one example where I think families are not feeling that they do get the justice that sometimes they deserve.
"I think the basic standard of driving on our roads has reduced," she continued. "Using an indicator, being in the correct lane, actually knowing what the Highway Code says, knowing which lane to go in when you're going around a roundabout and also just calming down on our roads.
"You know, sometimes I see behaviours where people are just utterly impatient to get where they want to go, really not recognising the risks that are around them, that they're both creating for others but also that others are then potentially creating for them.
"So I think changing behaviours and changing minds is really, really important in terms of just calming people down and also trying to reinforce just how much damage a vehicle can do, particularly to other vulnerable road users, whether that's a pedestrian, a pedal cyclist, a horse rider, it's really important that people take responsibility for the risk that they could pose to others when they're behind the wheel."
We must have missed the bit about cyclists being more visible so they don't get hit.
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That Surrey RoadSafe video -- I mean, the message about riding defensively is fair enough, they've just framed it pretty poorly in my opinion.
Doesn't matter where you ride if the drivist isn't looking or paying attention & in this example, it's still not the cyclists fault if there is a collision (which you could argue is being implied - certainly the rabid anti-cyclists & Loophole lawyers would no doubt jump on it that way & put all accountability on the rider). Surely they could have found a better way of educating all road users that cyclists taking primary in certain circumstances is a good option? At least it's not a party election broadcast.....
Considering that the majority of bike/car collisions are unavoidable and the fault of the driver, it would be far more effective to lecture drivers about actually looking for bikes and paying attention to what they're doing. Experienced cyclists will generally ride defensively anyhow, so they're just targetting the inexperienced cyclists.
I can't help but think that the illustrated collision could have been avoided by the driver actually stopping at the junction, rather than rolling through it.
my point exactly.
What would really help the visibility at junctions is cars not parked close to them. Has anyone ever run a campaign telling drivers to park at least 10m from junctions. No.... I thought not.
Licenced drivers should continue to follow Highway Code rule 243 when parking near junctions, as they learned for their driving test. Whatever happened to Traffic Wardens?
Can you imagine the hate if Traffic Wardens rode bicycles.
Oh - does that one still exist? I assumed that it had been retired, given the behaviour of pretty much every f-ing motorist in my village
I don't mind advice on better road positioning to improve visibility, as there are still some cyclists, as well as drivers, who for a variety of reasons think bikes should hug the pavement, or think that's the considerate or even safest thing to do. Anything that explains why it isn't, or gives permission to more deferential cyclists to take the right position on the road for them is good IMO.
However, if I were in charge I would pitch it differently. I'd aim the clip at drivers, using it to explain why it's the safest road position for cyclists, and ultimately makes life easier for them, then hope that it clicks for cyclists that don't already realise this.
Chris Boardman is a such an asset to cycling. What an absolutely top bloke he is.
Shame that he isn't in the running for Prime Minister.
If the goal of politics was to find the best person for the top job then we'd have a radically different system to the one we have.
...and I'd like to disqualify anyone that actually wants the job.
I suppose they could have brain surgery so that they'd forget that they wanted the job…
That's what George Monbiot said somewhere (something along the lines that anyone seeking power should have compulsory psychotherapy first).
P S : https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/...
I'm sure it's not a new idea. Douglas Adams was giving it a spin back when and he won't be the first...
https://thedailyzen.org/2015/05/27/the-ruler-of-the-universe/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/RPVK2VZqX2qv6tQPTsLchK/man-in-...
He's probably over qualified
Well, he certainly knows what he's talking about
Well, it's described as 'Dubs Life', it's on an account called 'Dubs Life' that has it's location set to 'Dublin', and it looks like a rack that you've seen before "in Dublin".
I'm going to have to go with 'Dublin' here.
Meh... Just because the account's location is Dublin, they seem to post "funny" videos from anywhere - the majority in UK/Ireland but some certainly appear to be from even further afield. And I'm not convinced a similar (not identical) rack that happened to be in Dublin provides much additional credence to your theory.
" As expected @transportgovuk refused my FOI to release specific draft versions of the Managing Pavement Parking report. "
"We won't release the drafts of the cancelled report to you because they were produced to be published as a report, even if that report has been cancelled."
Bloody Vogons!
They've got to be beware of leopards.
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