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Fans rip into Jumbo-Visma for Pogačar "on his knees" radio advice that aged terribly; "I should say cars, but actually I think it might be bicycles": James May answers favourite vehicle question + more on the live blog

One more day left until the weekend... after seven days in a row Dan Alexander is slowly losing his grip on reality... is there life outside the Tour? For all our sakes it's probably best we get through Friday and have two days off...
07 July 2023, 08:51
Fans rip into Jumbo-Visma for Pogačar "on his knees" radio advice that aged terribly

We were all for the F1-style team/rider radio messages being integrated into the broadcast of this year's Tour de France, but have got to admit it's been pretty bland so far. Apart from an unknown individual in Arkéa–Samsic's team car telling their rider they love him mid-stage, there's really been nothing you would raise an eyebrow at... until now.

Tour de France images that preceded unfortunate events...

In fairness, did anyone expect Tadej's stage-winning recovery? Anyway, at least nobody here said he was "on his knees" or anything similarly incriminating in a public forum only to be proved horrendously wrong an hour later. *Panic-striken check of yesterday's live blog*...

In all its glory...

Speaking about his team's plan, Vingegaard admitted: "Tadej was really strong and deserved to win.

"We wanted to try to test him [Pogačar] again today and see how he felt and I suppose he felt better than yesterday. It's going to be one hell of a battle all the way to Paris."

The only person broken and on their knees at the end of the first week is your resident live blogger, and he's not even left his desk... bring on the rest days (sorry, 'weekend').

Cycling fans have been as sympathetic and understanding as you might expect in the face of such an embarrassment...

Who'd be a sports director, eh? 

07 July 2023, 15:18
SO CLOSE! Mark Cavendish pipped on the line as Jasper Philipsen completes first week hat-trick

Carlton Kirby's commentary on that was something else... if you listen carefully you can hear the exact moment he realises he's gone too early...

"Mark Cavendish comes into the frame, HE'S COMING UP ON THE OUTSIDE, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, IT'S GOING TO BE 35, oh, is it going to be heartbreak on the line? It is. Oooh goodness me, heartbreak hotel, he's done his job, Jasper Philipsen says it's too big to give away..."

Things weren't quite so premature over on ITV...

07 July 2023, 14:54
Ryan goes in depth on the Puy de Dôme, the highlight of this weekend's Tour action
Puy de Dôme

Sorry, everyone, just been finishing some touches on a fetaure Ryan has put together on the legendary, brutal, mythical, insert other adjectives here, Puy de Dôme. Well worth five minutes of your time before Sunday...

> Tour de France legends: The iconic Puy de Dôme returns to the Tour after 35 years

07 July 2023, 13:22
Can teams ride prototype bikes in the Tour de France? What are the rules around unreleased cycling tech in pro road racing?
07 July 2023, 13:13
Your thoughts on the addition of team radio to Tour de France the broadcast

Cheers to dubwise for pointing out it was Laurent Pichon's wife on the blower mid-stage to tell him she loved him. Makes more sense than the DS but then again the French team does adore a doomed breakaway slog (as evidenced today)...

Serves me right for muting the comms for 90 per cent of the stage. Sorry commentators, I don't care how good you are, 21x4 hours is too much for me...

Matthew Acton-Varian: "The Jumbo-Visma radio broadcasts shows just how much can be added to the entertainment side of live races. Less than 1 week into the Tour and we already have a memeable classic."

Memeable classic. I like that.

07 July 2023, 11:24
The morning after the night before
07 July 2023, 11:00
No winking at women, no cycling in swimming pools — Crazy cycling laws from around the world
07 July 2023, 10:51
The science behind keeping your bike clean — we visit Gtechniq's lab to see the latest in ceramic bike care tech
07 July 2023, 07:49
"I should say cars, I love cars, but actually I think it might be bicycles": James May answers favourite vehicle question

In the month where attention for everything else is competing for the tiny percentage of my brain not overrun with a sporting event across the Channel, things can easily slip through the net... such as this clip from Wednesday night's One Show with James May as guest...

Favourite vehicle? "That's a slightly awkward question because obviously I should say it's cars, I love cars, but actually I think it might be bicycles," the former Top Gear presenter admitted.

"Only because... no I'm not going to try to justify it... the bicycle was the first thing I had, the bicycle was the first thing that truly liberated me as a means of transport and that's an incredibly precious thing. Partly because it connects you with childhood and because they are free at the point of use, they almost feel like beating the system for nothing, which doesn't really happen in physics.

> James May: "I can't stand road sectarianism – it's all b*llocks"

"You're always connected with that joy of A) being young B) being healthy and being given the keys to the world." 

You won't get any arguments from us, Mr May...

07 July 2023, 08:17
Post-stage debrief: Time cut battling; Cav in good spirits; James Shaw takes a minute + loads more

Thought I'd chuck all the post-stage reaction from yesterday into one big round-up for you this morning, starting with the back of the race...

37 minutes after Tadej Pogačar took a bow across the finish line, Fabio Jakobsen and three Soudal-QuickStep teammates joined him in completing the stage. One minute earlier, Mark Cavendish and a trio of Astana helpers did too, the Manx Missile in good spirits at the finish...

Stage seven should be a sprint into Bourdeaux, is today the day?

Moving up the finish order, fifth-placed James Shaw, riding his first Tour de France having been without a WorldTour contract for two years before joining EF Education-EasyPost, had a simple message for any youngsters watching on... "Never give up, kids, because if you want to achieve your dreams it's out there".

Let's finish by hearing from the main man himself, including an admission that at one point it felt like everyone could pack their bags and go home...

07 July 2023, 07:59
More from May
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It's far from the first time we've seen James May pop up on road.cc, back in 2022 we spoke to him about all things bikes...

That came after we'd spotted the presenter's claims that he is now "well buff" having racked up the miles during lockdown, and wanted then-PM Boris Johnson to "bomb us with bicycles".

In January, May made the case for 20mph speed limits, saying the limit in urban and residential areas is "plenty fast enough". Our sister site, e-bike tips, in March, reported on May's statement that electric bikes "really could change the world".

We won't dig out our coverage of a certain former Top Gear colleague of May, otherwise we might be here all day...

Dan is the road.cc news editor and has spent the past four years writing stories and features, as well as (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. Having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for the Non-League Paper, Dan joined road.cc in 2020. Come the weekend you'll find him labouring up a hill, probably with a mouth full of jelly babies, or making a bonk-induced trip to a south of England petrol station... in search of more jelly babies.

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Hirsute | 10 months ago
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Keep seeing wankpanzers or as I now shout at them 'child killing vehicles'.

I reckon I saw fewer off road capable vehicles in northumberland last month than I see in Essex. But hey everyone needs a Q7 or sports range rover.

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mattw | 10 months ago
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I can never read any articles on E-Bike Tips - it says "unable to handle".

Anybody else?

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mike the bike replied to mattw | 10 months ago
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mattw wrote:

I can never read any articles on E-Bike Tips - it says "unable to handle".

Anybody else?

You misunderstand the message sir.  It's the AI department of Road.cc who have decided, in their synthetic wisdom, that you are unable to handle an e-bike.  You might think it a compliment.

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brooksby | 10 months ago
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Remember all that fuss a few weeks ago about a new cycle lane which people kept tripping over?

Well, now They're 'aving a go at the blind!

https://metro.co.uk/2023/07/06/wolverhampton-kerb-built-for-the-blind-is...

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One shopper said: ‘It’s crazy. I came out the Mander shopping centre with a few bags, I crossed the road and almost went flat on my face when I didn’t see the kerb.

‘There is a white line but it’s so close to the new cycle and pedestrian markings you can barely see it. I’ve seen lots of people almost come a cropper over it.’

Another said: ‘The council seem to have put something in to help blind people but created a trip hazard for everyone else.

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Matthew Acton-Varian replied to brooksby | 10 months ago
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Perhaps if they paid attention to their surroundings, and not their phones, I doubt it weould be a problem.

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hawkinspeter replied to brooksby | 10 months ago
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brooksby wrote:

Remember all that fuss a few weeks ago about a new cycle lane which people kept tripping over?

Well, now They're 'aving a go at the blind!

https://metro.co.uk/2023/07/06/wolverhampton-kerb-built-for-the-blind-is...

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One shopper said: ‘It’s crazy. I came out the Mander shopping centre with a few bags, I crossed the road and almost went flat on my face when I didn’t see the kerb.

‘There is a white line but it’s so close to the new cycle and pedestrian markings you can barely see it. I’ve seen lots of people almost come a cropper over it.’

Another said: ‘The council seem to have put something in to help blind people but created a trip hazard for everyone else.

Is it really that difficult to have a raised kerb that is easily visible?

On the one hand, I want people to look where they are going most of the time, but on the other hand, we shouldn't be putting trip hazards around the place. On balance though, I think we should err on the side of trip hazards if only to wake up the phone zombies.

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dubwise | 10 months ago
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"Apart from an unknown individual in Arkéa–Samsic's team car telling their rider they love him mid-stage"

That was Pichon's wife, as stated in commentary.  The Arkéa phoned her and got her to talk to him.

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Dan Alexander replied to dubwise | 10 months ago
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Brilliant! You'll forgive us for sticking the sound off for most of the day, three weeks is a long time to listen!

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ktache replied to Dan Alexander | 10 months ago
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But isn't it all about having it on in the background?

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Matthew Acton-Varian | 10 months ago
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The Jumbo-Visma radio broadcasts shows just how much can be added to the entertainment side of live races. Less than 1 week into the Tour and we already have a memeable classic. 

Move over Kimi Raikkonen ("Leave me alone, I know what I am doing"/you will not have the drink), there's a new radio message in town.

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Steve K | 10 months ago
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The only depressing thing in that clip is the response to him saying he's done 25 miles today (gasps and "That's amazing").  We really shouldn't see that as amazing - it's perfectly do-able by a normal, healthy, middle-aged person.

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HoldingOn replied to Steve K | 10 months ago
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We shouldn't see it as amazing, but I only have to think back a couple of years to know I would have seen 25 miles as amazing.

A lot of people wouldn't consider walking a mile, so I think that if they see a "normal" person doing "amazing" distances, they might be more inclined to think "hey - I could give that a go"

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brooksby replied to Steve K | 10 months ago
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Steve K wrote:

The only depressing thing in that clip is the response to him saying he's done 25 miles today (gasps and "That's amazing").  We really shouldn't see that as amazing - it's perfectly do-able by a normal, healthy, middle-aged person.

I rarely have time to do any recreational cycling: practically all of my cycling is commuting or going to the shops.  My commute is 6-9 miles each way (depending on which route I take).  I frequently have someone say to me, "You cycle six miles?  But that's such a long way!".

So I can understand why 'civilians' might think that a twenty five mile ride is incredible.

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Steve K replied to brooksby | 10 months ago
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brooksby wrote:

Steve K wrote:

The only depressing thing in that clip is the response to him saying he's done 25 miles today (gasps and "That's amazing").  We really shouldn't see that as amazing - it's perfectly do-able by a normal, healthy, middle-aged person.

I rarely have time to do any recreational cycling: practically all of my cycling is commuting or going to the shops.  My commute is 6-9 miles each way (depending on which route I take).  I frequently have someone say to me, "You cycle six miles?  But that's such a long way!".

So I can understand why 'civilians' might think that a twenty five mile ride is incredible.

I agree with both you and HoldingOn - I meant it's depressing that cycling a few miles is seen as such a feat.

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brooksby replied to Steve K | 10 months ago
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Steve K wrote:

I agree with both you and HoldingOn - I meant it's depressing that cycling a few miles is seen as such a feat.

Amen to that.

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HoldingOn replied to Steve K | 10 months ago
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I must admit, I was surprised at just how far you can cycle without requiring a massive amount of fitness (I don't mean "you" as in specifically you Steve K - I mean the general "you"!)

I think the mass-cycling videos that I enjoy are brilliant because there are so many different types of people out cycling. It starts to show people that you really only need a bike to be able to get out and cycle a few miles. I would estimate if you can slow walk for ten minutes, you will be able to cycle for 30 minutes - but that 30 minutes could take you 5 miles. Even more so with an eBike. (the mass element of it, shows them they wouldn't be alone)

We just need "normal" people to see that kind of cycling. Make them aware its well within their reach!

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Steve K replied to HoldingOn | 10 months ago
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HoldingOn wrote:

I must admit, I was surprised at just how far you can cycle without requiring a massive amount of fitness (I don't mean "you" as in specifically you Steve K - I mean the general "you"!)

I think the mass-cycling videos that I enjoy are brilliant because there are so many different types of people out cycling. It starts to show people that you really only need a bike to be able to get out and cycle a few miles. I would estimate if you can slow walk for ten minutes, you will be able to cycle for 30 minutes - but that 30 minutes could take you 5 miles. Even more so with an eBike. (the mass element of it, shows them they wouldn't be alone)

We just need "normal" people to see that kind of cycling. Make them aware its well within their reach!

I was definitely not very fit when I started commuting 11 miles each way to work (admittedly pretty flat miles - hills make much more difference than distance per se).  I agree with everything you say, with the proviso of my normal complaint about not being in the videos.

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Adam Sutton replied to brooksby | 10 months ago
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Years ago I would have been in that camp of amazement.

Now, if I just cycle to the train station it's just under 6 miles. If I use the Brompton to take with me and avoid the underground, it's another 6+ miles across London to work. So total for the day of 20+ miles. I like to point out to people that this is achievable with a bit of effort. I'm not super fit, I'm still overweight and in my forties.

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giff77 replied to Steve K | 10 months ago
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Steve K wrote:

The only depressing thing in that clip is the response to him saying he's done 25 miles today (gasps and "That's amazing").  We really shouldn't see that as amazing - it's perfectly do-able by a normal, healthy, middle-aged person.

Some folk are so dependent on their cars that to even walk 1mile is a challenge. My work colleagues considered a 5 mile commute by bike an ultra challenge. I spent forever trying to convince one that the 1mile for him was doable and it wouldn't turn him into a sweaty mess and the only reason I wore lycra was because I took a twenty mile plus loop home. The same individual bemoaned the fact he was overweight and had a gym membership that he never used because he was always too tired. Tried to explain that the exercise would sort out the tiredness. He's still driving and has now bought a wankpantzer. 🙄

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Awavey replied to giff77 | 10 months ago
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I used to work with someone who drove 2.5miles to work everyday, and then had a gym membership, the gym was only a mile from their house and they also drove to that too, and theyd ride a static exercise bike to keep fit.no

they werent the only one I just gave up trying to convince people that a 1mile bike ride wont make you so hot and sweaty that you need a shower afterwards, and it only takes minutes and you could wear normal clothes if you needed etc etc, because there was always another excuse they had that meant they couldnt possibly consider it a valid option

 

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wycombewheeler | 10 months ago
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Quote:

 "Only because... no I'm not going to try to justify it... the bicycle........

proceeds to justify it quite effectively, although there's no only in that statement.

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