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Councillor says they got "dog's abuse" for telling cyclists to use £700,000 shared-use path; "Not the type of fan we want": EF Education-EasyPost's Jonathan Vaughters shares grim homophobic 'fan mail'; TdF: Unchained hits Netflix + more on the live blog

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08 June 2023, 09:23
Councillor says they got "dog's abuse" for telling cyclists to use shared-use path

A councillor in Dunfermline, in Scotland, has told the local press how they received "dog's abuse" for telling cyclists they should use cycle lanes, namely a shared-use path that cost £700,000 to build.

Jean Hall-Muir accused local cyclists of taking the law "unto themselves", saying they "do what they want". 

"If you provide a cycle lane they go on the road. If you point it out you get dog's abuse from the cyclists as they don't want to hear it from anyone else," she said.

"I would like to see an elevated responsibility from the cyclists. If you're provided with a dedicated lane, you're expected to use that and stay in it, but I don't know how much we can do."

Interestingly the article was illustrated with a picture of one new-looking shared-use path on Aberdour Road, the sort of infrastructure that could help new riders who might not have the confidence to negotiate the road and would otherwise be cycling on the pavement (or not at all), but might seem unnecessary to those with more experience.

"We can't make people use them," Lesley Craig, from the traffic management service added. "It's a mandatory cycle lane that's there for their use but we're dealing with human nature. If cyclists are still allowed to cycle on the road we can't enforce against them doing that. We just have to provide what we can and hope they will use it."

Another councillor, Lynn Ballantyne-Wardlaw, had at least spoken to those of us told to use such 'infrastructure'... "One of the reasons cyclists shared with me, as to why they still cycle on the road rather than use cycle lanes, is that the detritus and mess that ends up on cycle lanes damages their wheels and they find it safer on the road."

At risk of veering off into opinion here... can councillors really get miffed if the extent of their 'infra' is widening and resurfacing a pavement and calling it a shared-use path? I think I already know the answer, but it's nice to have a short relief after writing all of the above...

08 June 2023, 14:50
"If cyclists aren't using the infrastructure provided, then it's probably not very good"

Comments time... I'm going to selectively bypass the debate on what constitutes dog's abuse... 

OnYerBike: Preaching to the choir here, but if cyclists aren't using the infrastructure provided, then it's probably not very good. Cyclists just want a convenient and safe route. Rather than trying to "force" cyclists to use the infrastructure provided, maybe think about why cyclists don't want to use it and then try to improve it.

Steve K nailed it...

"Bloody cyclists, cycling on the pavement"

(puts up shared use sign)

"Bloody cyclists, not cycling on the pavement"

hawkinspeter: "They build a shitty 'cycle lane', don't maintain it, have it cede priority at every side road and then blame cyclists for not using it."

HoldingOn: "I try and avoid shared footpaths if I can — the one section I do use it, is because the road is very narrow, full of potholes and car/lorries get so f****** close I have to change my shorts.

"Do I avoid the shared footpaths as some form of weird protest or a feeling of self-entitlement? No — as with (I would imagine) most cyclists, I avoid the shared footpaths because I am going a heck of a lot quicker than pedestrians, on a vehicle that is quieter than someone running.

"I need to slow way down when I see a pedestrian, because chances are they can't hear me/my bell (definitely not if they are wearing headphones) and last thing I want is to crash into someone/ get a punch from someone who got a fright as I went past."

08 June 2023, 16:06
Jonas Vingegaard lays down Tour de France marker, dominates Critérium du Dauphiné

I wonder if somewhere near Granada, at altitute, a certain Slovenian was watching this?

Extra training motivation, I guess, seeing your big rival for the Tour de France dispatch all the other Dauphiné hopefuls with one strong attack. We're not even in the mountains yet...

08 June 2023, 15:59
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08 June 2023, 07:57
"Not the type of fan we want": EF Education-EasyPost's Jonathan Vaughters shares grim homophobic 'fan mail'

Here's a depressing start to a live blog in 2023. EF Education-EasyPost's team boss Jonathan Vaughters shared a picture of an email that dropped into his inbox after yesterday's Critérium du Dauphiné time trial where British rider James Shaw was the team's best finisher, in 17th, and team leader Richard Carapaz lost a disappointing 2:39, coming home 43rd...

Warning: email includes very strong homophobic language

Wait until he sees what Carapaz was wearing in 2019... 

"In case there was any need of clarification, as there often is on Twitter, this person, whoever they are, is not the type of fan we want. Period," Vaughters added. 

As one real fan replied, hopefully they sent a nice pink EF cap to whichever basement this particular email came from...

08 June 2023, 14:02
G enjoys Tour de France: Unchained... sort of
08 June 2023, 13:20
Basically

If you were wondering, it's a lumpy hilly stage out in France today, a breakaway of breakaway favourites: Thomas De Gendt, Nils Politt, Edvald Boasson Hagen, Jonas Gregaard, Georg Zimmermann and Leon Heinschke. Despite the group's escapee credentials, it doesn't look like the peloton will let them decide the day, just over two and a half minutes advantage with 40km to go.

Over in the Netherlands, Cav has the opportunity to follow up his Rome success with another victory, on the opening roads stage of ZLM Tour after last night's prologue. Worth noting, for the first time, he'll have the support of the team's lead-out (of sorts), including former DSM fast man Cees Bol.

08 June 2023, 12:10
Is Shimano working on a hub-charged electronic shift system?
08 June 2023, 11:11
Early reaction to Netflix's €8 million Tour de France documentary series

It's been up on Netflix in the UK for four hours now so the breakaway is making its way through the episodes. Those of you sat comfortably in the peloton (at work) will have a few hours longer to wait before your turn to get stuck into the action.

We're not particularly bothered about spoilers for this one, after all we all know what happens, right? But if you are hoping to keep things completely fresh for your viewing, maybe give this post a miss...

Tour de France: Unchained (Netflix)

One thing popping up a few times is the recommendation to watch it in French with English subtitles, partly for the authenticity, partly because the voice actor dubbing is apparently somewhere between terrible and horrendous...

"The English dubbing on this Netflix Tour de France series is f****** awful. The guy sounds like some crazed carnivore hunting for his prey. Much better in French with English subtitles (if you need it like)," one particularly gifted wordsmith reviewed the series...

On Twitter, Tim O'Connor said: "You see the emotional side of both" Thibaut Pinot and Marc Madiot, while we've also seen suggestions that Tadej Pogačar's absence is notable. 

Anyone had a chance to watch an episode yet? 

08 June 2023, 10:49
'Tour de France: Unchained' teaser clip — Pidcock vs Galibier descent

Just to keep you going until you get to watch it... 

08 June 2023, 10:44
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08 June 2023, 08:52
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08 June 2023, 08:43
Tour de France: Unchained hits Netflix

And it's live...

Apparently at the end Jonas Vingegaard wins... sorry, spoilers!

Anyone got any early thoughts?

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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Roulereo replied to hawkinspeter | 1 year ago
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Is Trump rich from all the money he saves living rent free in your little head?

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hawkinspeter replied to Roulereo | 1 year ago
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Roulereo wrote:

Is Trump rich from all the money he saves living rent free in your little head?

I rarely think about Trump and until this reply, haven't mentioned him. Are you sure you're not confused by reality again?

Anyhow, for your information I had to swap a medium helmet for a large one just recently as my head is bigger than I thought. I'm not sure why you're interested in the sizes of body parts though.

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chrisonabike replied to hawkinspeter | 1 year ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

Anyhow, for your information I had to swap a medium helmet for a large one just recently as my head is bigger than I thought. I'm not sure why you're interested in the sizes of body parts though.

Do you have a big head though, or just small hands?

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hawkinspeter replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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chrisonatrike wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

Anyhow, for your information I had to swap a medium helmet for a large one just recently as my head is bigger than I thought. I'm not sure why you're interested in the sizes of body parts though.

Do you have a big head though, or just small hands?

Well, I thought it was large hands and a medium head, but the helmet manufacturer disagreed

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AidanR | 1 year ago
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He must fucking hate the Giro.

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hawkinspeter | 1 year ago
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How on earth does someone get so triggered by a colour? That's god-tier insecurity if their masculinity gets challenged by someone else wearing a colour.

It's only really since WWII that pink was used for girls: https://www.thevintagenews.com/2019/05/01/pink-blue/

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back in the late 19th century and early 20th century, it was common for mothers to be told that boys should be dressed in a masculine color like pink in order to grow into a more manly individual later in life, while girls should be dressed in a more feminine alternative like blue.

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HoldingOn replied to hawkinspeter | 1 year ago
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I remember watching something some years ago that pointed out that WWII planes were painted pink underneath as they found that actually camouflaged better against the sky, than blue.

Perhaps the emailer is safety conscious and is so distraught with worry, they haven't expressed themselves very well.

nah.....typical internet response. Wouldn't be out of place on Twitter.

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KDee replied to HoldingOn | 1 year ago
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Don't know about aircraft countershading, but certainly some desert spec Land Rover's were painted pink, and affectionately called "pinkies".

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muhasib replied to HoldingOn | 1 year ago
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Spitfire

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mark1a replied to hawkinspeter | 1 year ago
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Wait until they find out that the SAS Mobility Troop used these in the desert until the 80s. Much better camouflage in the sand at dawn & dusk apparently. Known as the "Pink Panther" Land Rover. 

 

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fernblau replied to mark1a | 1 year ago
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in more pink related news 'The sets of Greta Gerwig's upcoming Barbie movie required such vast amounts of pink paint, they swallowed up one company's entire global supply, according to production designer Sarah Greenwood.'

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Matthew Acton-Varian | 1 year ago
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The only horse shit I smell is that from the emailer. Well done Jonathan Vaughters for calling out such disgusting behaviour.

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Roulereo replied to Matthew Acton-Varian | 1 year ago
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Clickbait upon clickbait this, with a dash of sanctimonious virtue signalling waffle. The original comment is so pathetic, even a spotty teen would have the maturity to not bother, but sure whatever it takes for a pile on. Oh well anyway

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