Cyclist charged after two others hospitalised in Richmond Park crash

Regents park.

There are a lot of cyclists in Richmond Park. The actual number of incidents per cyclist per kilometre might be quite low.

henryb wrote:

There are a lot of cyclists in Richmond Park. The actual number of incidents per cyclist per kilometre might be quite low.

Yes, I've been riding round or through there on and off since I was twelve, given that I'm now fifty-three I must have done tens of thousands of miles on its roads and I can only remember (caveat, as I said, I'm fifty-three!) four incidents I've seen of cyclists being in collision with cars or each other, and a handful more of solo-cyclist-only incidents. No idea of precise cyclist visitor numbers but it must be in the thousands at weekends.

I'd imagine being on the wrong side of the road, especially if doing so by weaving about, would be enough to count as careless. 

Coming round the sharp right-hander downhill (if I'm thinking of the correct descent) does need good observation/brakes (and I've had some sketchy moments on the gravel at the outside of the bend where I've been overambitious). But, kids/deer/geese can't be expected to anticipate someone hurtling downhill towards them or to know which side of the road to be on: a middle-aged man on a bike can. (Source: am a middle-aged man on a bike).

This. The original tweet says he was climbing on the correct side of the road but veered into the path of the descenders. The uphill is a long left-hander and the road is pretty wide there so you’d not really need to go close to the opposite lane, even overtaking, so such a manoeuvre could well count as ”without due care and attention”. As a frequent user, I can’t say I’ve ever seen anything remotely like this, though.

The two right handers before the long drag could be the location possibly.

Descending Broomfield Hill, I have encountered climbing cyclists in the middle of the road at the sharp right hander and again after the ensuing left hander, behind the tree. There were deer there once too.

Descenders need good observation and careful control of speed. I try to descend on my own to avoid riders on my tail ...

Probably he was overtaking someone slower. Or even a couple of someone -- and he decided to overtake them.

I had assumed from the story that this was going to be some sort of hell climb, hence Mr Stringer going over to the wrong side of the road.  And yet it doesn't look particularly bad on streetview...  On streetview, TBH, you'd not realise that it is a hill.  But you have local knowledge so I will bow before that

It's not really a hard climb at all, the Veloviewer segment is 1.1 km at 3.7%, but the last 200m is a curve average around 9.5% maxing out at 12.5% so something of a test.

Which one was the "hill" used for the Ride London? 

AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

Which one was the "hill" used for the Ride London? 

For the Essex version there was a drag up to Epping Forest and some flyover ramps, and an urban thing somewhere on the way into London.  Hilly it was not.  For the Surrey version, there were several - Newlands Corner, Box Hill, Leith Hill as the main events

Only got the Pru 46 entry before Covid and the changes made so the only climbs I did were in Richmond and Wimbledon Hill, so the question was on which one in Richmond park was used for Ride London? Sorry, should have been clearer. 

Thanks Ren and Leip for the answers.

You're talking about Sawyers Hill

Ta.

AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

Which one was the "hill" used for the Ride London? 

Sawyers, they came in at Sheen Gate, up Sawyers to Richmond Gate then virtually all downhill from there to Kingston Gate.

Had a superb time on that section, full gas in a bunch, inches from disaster. It had absolutely tipped it down the night before so was quite sketchy in places

Seems odd that this bloke would be wandering around all over the road, then.  I imagine he was "local" and would know it's a two-way road?

You'd hope so but it's closed to all motor traffic now so maybe false sense of security.