Lorry driver who killed Davide Rebellin reportedly got out of cab, looked at dead cyclist, then drove off

alchemilla wrote:

No arrest? Does this mean there'll be no repercussions whatsoever?

No, as fellow EU members Germany and Italy are both bound by the European Convention on Extradition, the German authorities should arrest and hand him over once the Italian authorities make the request.

In fairness we don't have that in the UK either, we have causing death by dangerous driving. Strange that he couldn't be arrested though. 

The Germans do have a history of not arresting people who have commited worse crimes than this so no surprise. Maybe the Italians should ask Mossad to kidnap him and get him to italy to face justice?

I can see where you got your handle from, relax, you're out, have a Rishi!

Just FYI something which you could look up if you read German:  a pair of street racers were convicted for murder on final appeal for a race that ended in the death of another driver in Berlin back in 2017.  One got life, the other 13 years.  Life in Germany=indeterminate length, no parole for at least 15 years after conviction.  

Have a Rishi? Left/Labour/Remain and Right/Tory/Leave are in no way mutually exclusive.

Thank you.
Socialist/Green/Leaver reporting for duty.

I was referring to murder on a much bigger scale which also ended with a death in Berlin.

Good to hear the outcome of the more recent case though, sounds like our courts could learn something from that.

Don't mention the Godwin!

Are you trying some Teutonic "Fiat Driving" there (borrowing from other thread)?  I think they knew that - but then so did you.

I know zero about German cycling infra and conditions which is a pity since internet rumour has that it's a mixed bag [1], [2], [3], [4] but apparently has some rather good bits (Bremen - this is the Copenhagenize index though which ludicrously says Copenhagen is the world's best.  At publicity, maybe...) And also decent enforcement (by UK standards, not Dutch obviously).

chrisonatrike wrote:

Are you trying some Teutonic "Fiat Driving" there (borrowing from other thread)?  I think they knew that - but then so did you.

Maybe if Brits gave up trying to look down on others, they'd not be in the dire straits they've created for themselves.. .

marmotte27 wrote:

Maybe if Brits gave up trying to look down on others, they'd not be in the dire straits they've created for themselves.. .

Kinda ironic

NOtotheEU wrote:

I was referring to murder on a much bigger scale which also ended with a death in Berlin.

Good to hear the outcome of the more recent case though, sounds like our courts could learn something from that.

Why are you sad Gammons so obsessed with a war that has all but passed from living memory?

Eton Rifle wrote:

Why are you sad Gammons so obsessed with a war that has all but passed from living memory?

Not a gammon, but it's well worth looking at how Hitler came to power and not making the same mistakes again. Right-wing populism is rising in power around the world, so we need to ensure that people don't think nationalism and xenophobia are at all acceptable. People should be worried whenever people like Pritti Patel or Suella Braverman are anywhere near our government.

Eton Rifle wrote:

NOtotheEU wrote:

I was referring to murder on a much bigger scale which also ended with a death in Berlin.

Good to hear the outcome of the more recent case though, sounds like our courts could learn something from that.

Why are you sad Gammons so obsessed with a war that has all but passed from living memory?

I hope you don't ever say that to someone from Poland, Russia or Israel because you won't like the reply! The day this passes from memory the world will be a more dangerous place. The last two trials of a Nazi war criminals that I'm aware of were in 2021 so you forget if you want to but I'll always remember.

EDIT;

I thought I'd add, before my post gets misinterpreted, that I in no way hold modern Germany and it's people responsible for it's Nazi past. We should never forget the evil things humans have done to each other as those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

ANOTHER EDIT;

I hope it's obvious to everyone that anything I have said on this subject comes from my anger and disapointment of the authorities lack of action against the heartless scumbag who killed a cyclist and not some anti German sentiment. Just in case my comments and my username combined make anyone jump to the wrong conclusion.

That is quite a puerile comment. A brexitty sort of comment. 

You could make a case for a lot of my posts being puerile and I'm OK with that but the EU didn't exist during WWII so I'm unsure of it's relevence to Brexit.

WW2 isn't relevant to Rebellin's killer either but you're talking about it anyway, so...?

Wingguy wrote:

WW2 isn't relevant to Rebellin's killer either but you're talking about it anyway, so...?

I was contrasting the lack of arrest of a German citizen who commited a crime in another country with a past example of the same. Quite relevant in circumstances if not in time.

NOtotheEU wrote:

Wingguy wrote:

WW2 isn't relevant to Rebellin's killer either but you're talking about it anyway, so...?

I was contrasting the lack of arrest of a German citizen who commited a crime in another country with a past example of the same. Quite relevant in circumstances if not in time.

If that counts as relevant then someone contrasting something that's part of Europe with something else that's part of Europe is just as relevant. So...?

In fact, Since the EU is part of a direct line of organisations originally founded to stop a very old guy in Germany getting away with things, that comparison is indeed far more relevant than yours.

You make a fair point so I concede.

In my defence most of BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP's replies to my post's mention Brexit in some way or another and in many cases it isn't relevent, apart from a reference to my username perhaps.

NOtotheEU wrote:

In my defence most of BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP's replies to my post's mention Brexit in some way or another and in many cases it isn't relevent, apart from a reference to my username perhaps.

Which is also completely fair. Apropos nothing, you chose to make the EU a central part of your online persona, announced as part of every post you make. If that makes people want to mention it, it's simply a natural consequence of your own decision. Take some personal responsibility and deal with it.

I have no problem dealing with it and I don't think I've ever complained, it is what it is. It's not something worth falling out over.

" founded to stop a very old guy in Germany getting away with things,"

How does this apply to the European Coal and Steel Community and subsequent European communities?