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Near Miss of the Day 568: “Too dangerous” – close pass van driver’s response to cyclist who invited him for a bike ride

Our regular series featuring close passes from around the country - today it's Buckinghamshire...

A cyclist who found himself on the receiving end of a second close pass on the same stretch of road inside a year invited the motorist involved to join him for a bike ride – only to have the offer declined because despite owning a bicycle, the van driver believed "it's dangerous to cycle on the road.”

The incident in Buckinghamshire that gave rise to that invitation is shown above, with the following video showing the earlier one, both submitted to our Near Miss of the Day series by road.cc reader John.

“The white van driver got a Section 59 from the police,” said John, referring to a warning given to motorist for having used their vehicle in a manner which causes “alarm, distress or annoyance” to others.

“That's not really something that I think is very effective, but that's what the process is,” he continued.

“So when the green van close passed me I decided that it would be better to talk to the driver and try to help them understand the danger.

“He said he did nothing wrong and that there was loads of room.

“After a relaxed conversation I found out that he was an ex-HGV driver with 6 points on his licence and has attended a Driver Awareness Course.

“The van is probably not worth £500 and with his history he said he doesn't think his insurance company will give him cover when it expires soon.

“I asked if he would he has a bicycle and would come out for a cycle some time. He confirmed that he owned a cycle but wouldn't want to come out as it's dangerous to cycle on the road.”

John added, with a winking emoji: “I’m going to keep putting any close passes on my channel so a Like and Subscribe is always appreciated.”

Over the years road.cc has reported on literally hundreds of close passes and near misses involving badly driven vehicles from every corner of the country – so many, in fact, that we’ve decided to turn the phenomenon into a regular feature on the site. One day hopefully we will run out of close passes and near misses to report on, but until that happy day arrives, Near Miss of the Day will keep rolling on.

If you’ve caught on camera a close encounter of the uncomfortable kind with another road user that you’d like to share with the wider cycling community please send it to us at info [at] road.cc or send us a message via the road.cc Facebook page.

If the video is on YouTube, please send us a link, if not we can add any footage you supply to our YouTube channel as an unlisted video (so it won't show up on searches).

Please also let us know whether you contacted the police and if so what their reaction was, as well as the reaction of the vehicle operator if it was a bus, lorry or van with company markings etc.

> What to do if you capture a near miss or close pass (or worse) on camera while cycling

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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Fursty Ferret | 3 years ago
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I asked North Yorkshire police if they would be able to site a mobile camera on a road notorious for both speeding and dangerous passes (just wide enough for two lanes and a pavement, with a 40mph limit). 

They refused because it was "too dangerous" for one of their employees to be standing on the pavement due to the speed of the traffic.

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sensei | 3 years ago
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I've had this scenario many times, you suffer a close pass, catch up with the driver and have a chat. What was initially a conflict turns into a constructive discussion.

The point is that cyclists are an object to many drivers, as soon as you've stopped you become a person again. The psychology of the two different behaviours  is wholly down to what happens when drivers get behind the wheel with a destination to get to, even if they're not necessarily in a rush. Many would take greater care if they just remembered that it's a person not an object on the bike!

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iandusud | 3 years ago
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Shocking bit of driving for what? To save a few seconds. He clearly misjudged his ability to overtake the cyclist in the space available between the two parked cars. How much more of a misjudgement would it have taken for that to have been a serious collision?

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Bungle_52 | 3 years ago
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I'd never heard of a section 59 so I looked it up. As far as I can tell it gives the police the power to seize the vehicle if the behaviour is repeated. Have I got this wrong? It sounds like a pretty effective punishment to me.

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EK Spinner replied to Bungle_52 | 3 years ago
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probably only useful if it belongs to the driver, so many are leased or company vehicles they probably can't be seized

 

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Fifth Gear | 3 years ago
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The driver is like the man who defecates in the swimming pool but then refuses to swim because the water is contaminated.

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NewBob | 3 years ago
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A short trip on a Road and I noticed the Van is slightly more aggressive so when I was out later I dressed more like a Builder with a Hi Vis and well worn Jacket. It seemed to do the trick, Bike Helmet was my Hard Hat.

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Captain Badger | 3 years ago
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F+ck my ole boots! O/take followed by left turn. Who'd a thunk it....

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Captain Badger | 3 years ago
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I had the double whammy of being overtaken as I turned left at a junction by a close passing car also turning left at the same junction. 

Edit: Photo from video I will be submitting.
 

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Captain Badger replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 3 years ago
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AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

I had the double whammy of being overtaken as I turned left at a junction by a close passing car also turning left at the same junction. 

It's horrible, MGIF is so ingrained on some drivers, and where did it come from?

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brooksby replied to Captain Badger | 3 years ago
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Captain Badger wrote:

AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

I had the double whammy of being overtaken as I turned left at a junction by a close passing car also turning left at the same junction. 

It's horrible, MGIF is so ingrained on some drivers, and where did it come from?

Motorists just know that bicycles travel slowly; so they MGIF, regardless of the actual speed the bicycle is travelling at...

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lyndonf replied to brooksby | 3 years ago
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Very true. I'm often overtaken by cars in a 20mph zone as I'm cycling over 20mph myself. 

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