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Birdy Touring



Unique folding bike with a lot of positives qualities, but it also has a strange tendency to bob, and that price, well...
Power delivery
Super expensive
Liable to bobbing
Low-rent components in parts

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Riese & Müller's iconic Birdy could be characterised as the over-engineered Germanic answer to a Brompton. However, while the Birdy Touring's ride experience does exhibit a strange 'bobbing' quality, it is also superbly comfortable with surprisingly impressive levels of power delivery and control. It is very, very expensive, though.

Here at, we don't do grouptests, which is a blessing to some extent. Trying to get multiple versions of similar bikes from disparate manufacturers or distributors can feel like herding cats. However, as luck would have it, at the same time as I was testing the Birdy, I also had the Vello Rocky on review, so (don't tell anybody), if you read that review (once it's published) straight after this, I've sort of snuck in a little two-model 'boutique-style' folding bike grouptest here.

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The Birdy offers a strangely springy ride quality, far more so than the very, very stiff Vello. Thanks to suspension both front and back, there's a slightly bizarre sensation of bobbing up and down in the saddle – particularly when pedalling hard – that takes a bit of getting used. I suspect roadies and anybody focused solely on forward momentum will find it frustrating. However, it's hard to condemn the Birdy's ride because it's also very comfortable. Think of it sort of like a folding bike equivalent of an old Citroen 2CV; it's almost impossible to stop it lolloping and rolling but it's still quite impressive in its own way.

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Just to check it wasn't my prodigious weight causing this phenomenon, I gave the Birdy to my wife, who is not a prodigious weight. She also experienced the bobbing, but she also said it was the most comfortable bike she'd ever ridden. I have to concur – it is very comfortable – but that bobbing is still pretty weird.

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While some riders might far rather swap at least some of that obviously compliant bump-absorption for a bit more stiffness, pedalling is far from a turgid affair and the Birdy actually gets up to speed well. The Birdy marketing bumf suggests this is because the suspended wheels maintain contact with the ground better, and therefore create better drive.

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Control is also surprisingly good. For a folder, reach is quite long, which provides a slightly more enthusiastic ride and, at speed, the Birdy handles very well. It's easy to place on the road and its geometry offers just about the most naturally stable riding position – for me at 6ft at least – of any folder I've tested. The bobbing motion of the suspension negatively affects the feeling of stability just a tad, but among all the folders I've tested, it is – again surprisingly – the easiest for getting out of the saddle.

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In short, that wallowing suspension might not be to everybody's tastes, but this is an otherwise fun and capable bike to ride.


In unfolded form, the Birdy's geometry and riding position make it feel almost like a 'normal' bike. As I mentioned, the reach is good, as is wheelbase length. Stem height can be adjusted to one of five predetermined points, but even at the top one it might be a little low for tall riders wanting an upright position. I thought it was perfect for getting a bit of speed up. Saddle height was good enough to fit my 6ft frame and there was more seatpost available.

There's no getting away from the fact that the Birdy is a pretty funny looking thing. The main frame is effectively a single piece of aluminium engineering – no traditional tubes and joins here, this is monocoque all the way, albeit with a small integrated triangle heading down to the bottom bracket.

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At the bottom bracket, there's also the pivot point for the separate hydroformed rear triangle. Like the Brompton and the aforementioned Vello, the Birdy's fold relies on this rear triangle swinging underneath the main frame when folded.

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At the front, it's sort of similar, actually. The fork's two-arm suspension system effectively splits, with the front wheel folding underneath to sit alongside the main frame. It's all rather ingenious, although the stem ruins it slightly by utilising an old-school clamp that you have to undo to fold that in half.

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Drop the saddle to lock everything in place, and you've got a very compact little folded package.

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The Birdy has the world record for folding – 4.9 seconds – and despite its engineering complexity, it's actually fairly intuitive. I unfolded it initially without resorting to any instructions.

Gearset and brakes

I tested the Touring Birdy here, which comes with a 10-speed derailleur gearset, as opposed to the City model with Shimano Nexus hub gear, or Rohloff model with – you guessed it – a Rohloff Speed Hub. Having a 32-tooth biggest sprocket does look a tad strange inset against an 18in wheel, but a derailleur setup is – normally at least – fine by me.

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Gear changes were very positive and allied with the Driveline 52-tooth chainset, the 9-32 cassette offered enough options for just about anything – climbing is particularly easy. It's a bit of a shame that on a bike costing north of £2,500 you're 'only' getting Microshift XLE componentry at the rear mech – I looked online and the XLE rear mech is available for £29.99 from a well-known online cycle retailer. Call me a snob, but a £30 rear mech on a £2,500+ bike seems a bit cheap. Despite that, I'm actually quite a fan of Microshift kit so, functionally at least, there's almost nothing to complain about.

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I say 'almost' because Birdy does make mention of the fact that, despite its low bottom bracket, it still complies with regulations regarding pedal strike when leaning over into a corner. What it doesn't say is that having a full size rear mech on an 18in rear wheel means you can get pretty close to striking the road with that, too. I doubt you'll be knee-down in the corners enough for it to be a problem, but just be aware that it's a lot closer to the floor than a rear mech normally is.

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Finishing off the important moving parts are the Shimano Deore hydraulic disc brakes. These offer more than enough power, and after an initial 'grabby phase' provide excellent feel to make sure you use exactly the amount of braking that you need.

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One little quirk about these, though, is that the front calliper is mounted on the right leg of the fork. It makes no difference to performance but does seem just a tad strange.

Wheels and tyres

The Birdy runs on 18in wheels, rather than the Vello's 20in or the Brompton's 16in. The rims here are made by Alex, which again is another slight disappointment. (Fun game for the comments section – can anybody name a bike that costs more than the Birdy but also runs Alex rims?)

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The more interesting part of the wheel build is the Shutter Precision front dynamo hub. We'll come onto the point of that in a mo. As a package, the wheels seem fine if exceedingly nondescript.

Tyres are a bit better for people looking for brand names. The Schwalbe Marathon Racers offer fantastic grip in the dry and should be good enough for year-round use in all but snow and ice. They're certainly a sensible out-of-the-box option to get the most out of your Birdy.

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Finishing kit

Folding bikes are always a bit weird when it comes to finishing kit, and the Birdy is certainly no exception. I'll start with the obvious stuff first: the Selle Royal Shadow saddle is great; the Satori Horizon handlebar is good; and the Ergon ergonomic grips are excellent.

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We also get cute little Birdy-specific SKS mudguards, a little kickstand on the rear triangle and custom – although sadly not folding – pedals.

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Best of all, though, the front dynamo hub powers Supernova E3 lights at the front and rear, and our Birdy also came with Riese & Müller's funky Birdy luggage rack (that's an extra £94), which cleverly drops down with the rear triangle in folded form.

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Value and conclusion

According to Riese and Müller's website, the Birdy Touring sits in the middle of a three-bike range. Don't get your hopes up that there's a budget wonder there, though: the entry-level Birdy City starts at £2,579 and the halo Birdy Rohloff is a whopping £3,979.

Obviously, in that kind of price range, equivalent rival bikes are few and far between.

I mentioned the Vello Rocky I've also been reviewing earlier, which is similar in being almost a boutique folding bike, although it comes with a better Shimano XT gearset yet costs 'just' £1,352. If you've got the money, you could go for the even more exclusive and lighter Vello Rocky Titanium at €2,890 (£2,444.37).

Or there is the legendary Brompton. For £400 less than the Birdy, you could have one of Brompton's speedy and lightweight P Line models. So in comparison, you'd have to say the Birdy does look expensive.

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Despite its fairly phenomenal price, though, I have developed a bit of affection for my little Birdy test bike. While I could never imagine spending that kind of money to buy one myself, there is a lot of innovative engineering here. Yes, its ride experience is unusual, but it's quite fun, very comfortable, and surprisingly fast and secure on the road. If you want something special, and you've got the money, certainly give one a test ride.


Unique folding bike with a lot of positives qualities, but it also has a strange tendency to bob, and that price, well... test report

Make and model: Birdy Touring

Size tested: n/a

About the bike

List the components used to build up the bike.

Birdy lists:

Frame: Monocoque aluminium with hydroformed aluminium rear triangle

Headset: TH No 10, semi-integrated

Crankset: Driveline 52T, including Hollow Tech bottom bracket

Rear derailleur: Microshift, 10-speed

Shifter: Shimano Deore, 10-speed

Chain: KMC X10 ( 111x )

Cassette: Sunrace 10-speed, 9-32t

Brakes: Shimano Deore hydraulic disc brake

Rims: Alex 18in

Front hub: Hub dynamo Shutter Precision

Rear hub: Sunrace, 32 Loch

Tyres: Schwalbe Marathon Racer 40-355 Reflex

Tubes: Schwalbe SV5

Saddle: Selle Royal Shadow

Seatpost: JD / Riese and Müller, aluminium 34.9 x 565mm

Seatclamp: TranzX, 40,0 mm, QR

Pedals: VP R&M Custom

Handlebar: Satori Horizon, 31.8 mm, 10°, B=540 mm

Grips: Ergon ergonomic

Front light: Supernova E3 Pure 3S

Tail light: Supernova E3 E-Bike Tail Light 2

Mudguards: SKS Birdy

Kickstand: Minoura for Birdy

Tell us what the bike is for and who it's aimed at. What do the manufacturers say about it? How does that compare to your own feelings about the bike?

This is a folding bike aimed at the serious commuter or even longer-distance cyclist. Riese and Müller says: "Whether you're on holiday or for everyday working, the Birdy takes you safely to any destination, with Riese & Müller Control Technology. Thanks to its unique folding properties and low weight, you can take it with you easily at any time: folded together, it fits onto any form of public transport or into any car boot. And it can also be adjusted to different rider heights just as quickly as it can be folded."

Where does this model sit in the range? Tell us briefly about the cheaper options and the more expensive options

The Birdy Touring sits in the middle of a three-bike range. There's the entry-level Birdy City starting at £2,579 or the halo Birdy Rohloff starting at £3,979.

Frame and fork

Overall rating for frame and fork

Tell us about the build quality and finish of the frame and fork?

The frame and fork are essentially the main selling points of the Birdy, and you can see why. They're very well engineered.

Tell us about the materials used in the frame and fork?

Aluminium monocoque for the main body of the frame, with hydroformed aluminium elsewhere.

Tell us about the geometry of the frame and fork?

Quite aggressive, almost 'real' bike geometry for the Birdy. I felt more head-down than on most other folders.

How was the bike in terms of height and reach? How did it compare to other bikes of the same stated size?

Very good in terms of height and reach. Only potential negative is that some riders might want slightly more handlebar height.

Riding the bike

Was the bike comfortable to ride? Tell us how you felt about the ride quality.

Very comfortable to ride – the suspension front and back saw to that!

Did the bike feel stiff in the right places? Did any part of the bike feel too stiff or too flexible?

Ah, now it gets tricky. Yes, this bike bobs and wallows almost all the time, but especially under pedalling input.

How did the bike transfer power? Did it feel efficient?

It still felt efficient, though.

Was there any toe-clip overlap with the front wheel? If so was it a problem?


How would you describe the steering? Was it lively neutral or unresponsive? Not super lively, but a bit more eager than plain neutral.

Tell us some more about the handling. How did the bike feel overall? Did it do particular things well or badly?

I was impressed by the handling. Aside from the bobbing, it was very surefooted. High speed freewheeling descents, for example, were great fun.

Which components had the most effect (good or bad) on the bike's comfort? would you recommend any changes?

No changes needed for comfort.

Which components had the most effect (good or bad) on the bike's stiffness? would you recommend any changes?

No component changes would make any difference here.

Which components had the most effect (good or bad) on the bike's efficiency? would you recommend any changes?

I'd suggest a higher-spec gearset would make things even better.

Rate the bike for efficiency of power transfer:

Pretty good.

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It's a folder, so its sprinting capacity is limited. But the Birdy is good for a folder.

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It's efficient, but that bobbing really makes itself known on climbs.

The drivetrain

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On a £2,500+ bike, you really expect better.

Tell us some more about the drivetrain. Anything you particularly did or didn't like? Any components which didn't work well together?

Brompton has made its own gearset and I would suggest Riese & Müller would probably benefit from doing the same. Fitting budget drivetrain componentry to bike at this price point doesn't look good.

Wheels and tyres

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Again, R&M branded kit, even if it was still produced by Alex, would at least look better.

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Anything else you want to say about the componentry? Comment on any other components (good or bad)

The Shimano Deore hydraulic disc brakes are probably the highlight of the package – they work well.

Your summary

Did you enjoy riding the bike? Yes

Would you consider buying the bike? Absolutely not.

Would you recommend the bike to a friend? To test, yes. To buy unseen, no.

How does the price compare to that of similar bikes in the market, including ones recently tested on

The Vello Rocky (review to come) is similar in being almost a boutique-style folding bike, although it comes with a better Shimano XT gearset yet costs 'just' £1,352. If you've got the money, you could go for the even more exclusive and lighter weight Vello Rocky Titanium at €2,890. Or there is the legendary Brompton. For £400 less than the Birdy, you could have one of Brompton's speedy and lightweight P Line models. In comparison, you'd have to say the Birdy does look expensive.

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Use this box to explain your overall score

Folders are so tricky to score because they often feature so much innovation and engineering yet, ultimately, they still have to be judged on the basics: ride quality, performance and value. Here, the Birdy does well on the first two criteria, even if that bobbing sensation is a bit off-putting. But even despite all the positive qualities of its unique design, the Birdy's price is just too much for most people.

Overall rating: 6/10

About the tester

Age: 39  Height: 6'0  Weight: 16 stone

I usually ride: Islabikes Beinn 29  My best bike is: 25-year-old Dawes Galaxy

I've been riding for: Over 20 years  I ride: Most days  I would class myself as: Experienced

I regularly do the following types of riding: commuting, touring, sportives, general fitness riding, mtb, Leisure

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Philip_Rogers | 1 year ago

I have the same model and am roughly the same height as you at 184cm.  Some further comments:

+1 for the green rear elastomer and harder front elatomer.  I use these in the summer but switch back to red and soft in the winter.  The dealer advised this.

You look to be on the more upright comfort stem.  The sport stem may give a more comfortable and stable ride for taller riders.

The dynamo lighting is set for cycling on the right, i.e. as in Germany.  This is a nuisance as the front light can dazzle if on unlit cycle paths and not angled down.  To my mind the rear light is also wrong and angles too much the left.

I had a test ride on the Tourning, which I bought on Cyclescheme, and the Rohloff.  The Rohloff felt heavier and slower, which it is, but given steep hills near Bath I would now appreciate the wider gear range.

Matt Lamy | 1 year ago

Re: bobbing. As I was finally packing the Birdy to send back today, just thought I'd take a video of its rear elastomer under load. And this is fairly minimal load - just one hand on the saddle and a bit of downward pressure whilst holding an iPhone with the other hand. I suspect, as commenters here have said, a stiffer green elastomer would have been better for me.

Matt Lamy replied to Matt Lamy | 1 year ago
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Sorry, scuppered by technology - I was hoping as a GIF I'd be able to show moving footage of the rear elastomer squidging up easily.

wtjs replied to Matt Lamy | 1 year ago

I suspect a stiffer green elastomer would have been better for me

I agree once again

a1white | 1 year ago

Crikey that rear derailleur looks so close to the ground. So odd looking. Good job it only costs £30, It looks like you''ll easilly catch it on a kerb or comething.

wtjs replied to a1white | 1 year ago

Crikey that rear derailleur looks so close to the ground...It looks like you''ll easilly catch it on a kerb or comething

Depends how you define 'easily' and how long-term you want your assurance. Over 20 years of using the bike in Enland, Scotland, Wales, France and Spain without an incident leads me to suspect it's not that easy

wtjs | 1 year ago

I thought I'd better put my legs where my mouth is, and brought the Birdy out from its bag. There's a fairly steep hill near me which I can just get up with my limited 1 x 8 gearing. No bobbing, which is why I have never noticed it over the years. It's a very useful bike, although I'm glad I don't have to buy one now!
I remember now - won't go the right way up on Android

Secret_squirrel replied to wtjs | 1 year ago

Ohh polished Alu version - Nice!  Just keep an eye out for fatigue in the seat post.

TRIGGER WARNING - the following picture is real - Japanese only licensed version.  I've always fancied one.





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ktache replied to Secret_squirrel | 1 year ago

It's so wrong, but in Celeste, so right...

eburtthebike | 1 year ago

I've done a few tours on my Birdy, 3x8 gears, and it was excellent, so much better than the hire bikes some of my companions were saddled with, and never had any bobbing problems either.

wtjs replied to eburtthebike | 1 year ago

3x8 gears
Is that a 3 speed hub? Was it from R&M or a mod of your own?

Secret_squirrel replied to wtjs | 1 year ago

Sram Dual drive (ex Sachs Dual Drive). 3 speed Hub with 8 Speed freehub body on outside.   I had one too.  

Same as wtjs's but painted blue.  Orginally the colour = the spec.  So Birdy blues were always 24 speed, 8 Speed was Birdy Red.  Rohloff was Birdy Black.

SRAM briefly made a 3x10 speed version!

wtjs | 1 year ago
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The bobbing problem: I've had a Birdy for over 20 years - a previous model with more boxy aluminium frame. I have never toured with it carrying heavy loads, and its main use was being hidden in obscure locations at the end of mountain tours so we could start from the car in one place and end at another. I would then ride a couple of hours at most to retrieve the car. I never experienced bobbing. I bought the green 'hard' elastomer at the outset, with a spare medium 'red'. This summer the 20+ year old green just fractured, making the bike unrideable. A quick replacement with the completely unused red didn't work because that promptly broke too- clearly it's age not use that finishes them off. A quick look online got me another green with no choice about which model it would fit. Well done R&M, because it fitted instantly and it rode better than before - maybe the elastomer is only good for 10 years! I also changed the front, which is just a damper with the work being done by the front suspension spring. It has been ridden on fairly rough roads and even Pyrenean 'gravel' and works well. I'm about 75kg, so I suspect that green is best for most people

Secret_squirrel replied to wtjs | 1 year ago
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Deffo not the green for me even Red was a touch hard.

If anyone wants a yellow (soft) one I think I have a spare in the shed for postage.  No guarantees it wont crumble - thats just Age and Elastomers.

I have a sizable bundle of odd bits for the Mark 1 non-hydroformed  Birdy  that I got from a bike shop closing down sale on Ebay - if anyone wants some bits ping me on the below and I'll send a photo.  From memory its mostly partial pannier racks, plastic mud guards, loads of trolley wheels for some reason.

I also have lightly used 32-9 Sunrace cassette from this model from my 10 to 11 speed conversion project.  Which are like hens teeth outside of the dealers.

decline-gigabit01 [at]

Happy to have a conversation if someone wants to inherit this lot.


wtjs replied to Secret_squirrel | 1 year ago
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Mine sounds even more original than yours, with an 8-speed and a GripShift. I've only changed the chain once, whereas I've done for 4 on my trailer towing Vitus gravel in 3 years- this shows that the Birdy is underused, but that's only because I'm lucky enough to have several bikes. Over hilly unladen rides of up to a couple of hours the Birdy does about the same as the steel Vitus, which is not bad for 18" v 700C!

SimonS | 1 year ago
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I've always wanted a Birdy since I first rode one nearly 20 years ago. I'm on my second Brompton since then and, while they're a load of fun and massively convenient i still think the Birdy would be better for longer rides while still having the security off Folding and storing indoors. 

At first glance the Vello looks like it's got a decent riding position but it's useless as a utility bike without mudguards and luggage carrying. And I can't find any images of it with either fitted. (I'd want a dynamo too for full convenience)

Doctor Fegg | 1 year ago

For a touring folder my first stop would always be a Bike Friday New World Tourist (20in wheels): I've had one for some seven years now and remain delighted with it. I suspect the Birdy folds a bit smaller, but the NWT is small enough for a suitcase or a train luggage rack, which is surely enough unless you're doing the whole Brompton commuter thing.

Bike Friday don't currently have a UK dealer (sigh) but it'd still come out at less than the Birdy price.

The Airnimal Joey is worth considering, too.

Secret_squirrel | 1 year ago

This review is a little unfair imo. 

I owned the 2019 version of the Birdy touring also an older Birdy Blue (24 speed!).

 Firstly I never ever noticed any bobbing on my 2 models - its worth noting that rear elastomer is replaceable at purchase for a harder or softer one. I was 75kg on the Medium.  YMMV of course.

Doing a proper price comparison to the Vello (which wouldnt exist without the Birdy) makes it slghtly more equal - though you are paying a premium for a smaller, faster fold, that monocoque hydroformed frame and a lighter base weight (closer to 11kg without the Dynamo & rear rack and lighter than the non-Ti Brompton)

Its also worth noting that the Vello doesnt even appear to be available in the UK - so the Birdy has a Brexit/Import Tax AND a LBS retail tax on it which the Vello doesn't.

If you spec the Vello up to the same level it comes to € 2.496.00 (Birdy €2,799) without an equivalent of that funny frame box and alegedly you get an Abus lock too (in Germany at least) - so dont think its that much worse. 

Agree the rear mech is low rent.  It was bad enough when it was 10 sp Deore rear mech.   Also the mech is worryly low but  you can go lower.  I replaced mine with an 11sp Long cage XT Shadow Rear Mech which was even lower - but worth bearing in mind that you're rarely in the bigger cogs where the jockeys are so low.  I never had a surface strike either - I did long 15-20 mile commutes on mine and it was barely any slower than my road bike.

Also check out the 32-9t rear cassette  3

(Obviously a Birdy fanboi here - its not perfect but I did like my 2)

Also if you think this is pricey you should see the Rohloff version  3


Simon_MacMichael replied to Secret_squirrel | 1 year ago

Thanks for the comment, I've flagged it to our tech team to look at.

Simon_MacMichael replied to Simon_MacMichael | 1 year ago
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After a bit of research, Vello does in fact have a distributor in the UK, based in east London, so other issues pointed out in comments apart (ie cost of speccing extras) there's no issues with import duty etc.

Matt Lamy replied to Secret_squirrel | 1 year ago

Hi there, thanks for your comment. The rear rack doesn't come as standard on the Birdy - not even on the 'Touring' model - add the carrier and it's £2763. As you say, an equivalent VELLO would be €2469 which at current exchange rates would be £2110 - £650 less than the Birdy. (However, in the Birdy's favour, the price for a UK-sourced VELLO seems to be a bit more than a direct price conversion.) So it's complicated. However, as a package, I still believe the VELLO is better value. I mean, a £30 rear mech on a £2.5k+ bike just looks like a ridiculous speccing decision!
I stand by the bobbing issue I had - it was bizarre. Because the Riese and Muller website has UK prices, I used that as my reference and I couldn't find any mention of alternative suspension parts there. However, following your comment, I see they are available on the US Birdy website - thank you for letting us know. All that said, and without wishing to pre-empt the VELLO review, even with the bobbing, I'd still rather ride the Birdy...

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