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Just in: Kinesis 4S Disc frameset, built up with new Shimano 105 hydraulic disc brakes

We build up the new 4S Disc aluminium frameset with new Shimano 105 hydro disc brakes

We've built up the new disc-and-calliper-friendly winter 4S Disc frameset from Kinesis with Shimano's new 105 hydraulic discs. And some other stuff.

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There's not that many bike frames that you can build up with rim brakes or discs, depending on your choice, but the Kinesis 4S Disc is one such frame. It's a versatile winter/training/all purpose platform that you could use as the jumping off point for a number of different kinds of build. We've put ours together as a fast(ish) winter bike, using Shimano's new 105 hydraulic levers and flat-mount callipers.

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Kinesis are good at making alloy bikes, and this 4S frameset uses their proprietary Kinesium tubing which they say offers "unrivalled comfort". Looking at the tube profiles, especially the massive down tube and the beefy stays, we're expecting it to be a pretty stiff beast too. Not that Kinesis have opted for maximum width at the bottom bracket: there are no press fits here, you get a standard 68mm threaded shell for whatever external bottom bracket takes your fancy. We're running a Turn Zayante 52/36 chainset on its dedicated bearings that give room for the 30mm oversized axle.

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The 4S is internally routed, but it's a pretty simple beast to thread. The cable/hose ports have three different plates you can use, for cables, hoses or just to blank them off if you don't need them. Everything runs through the down tube and exits through two ports at the bottom; the rear mech cable runs externally from the bottom bracket along the chainstay, mech cable runs externally from the bottom bracket along the chainstay.

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Calliper brake mounts are as you'd expect, and for discs, you get flat mount on both the frame and the fork. That means you can use Shimano's new minimal callipers, as we have, or post mount callipers using an adapter that Kinesis supply with the frame. Flat mount defaults to 140mm at the back; at the front a reversible plate means you can run the same or a bigger 160mm rotor. We've opted for the latter.

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The rotors themselves are TRP's new Centerlock ones, and they're fitted to Kinesis' new Racelight 700c Disc wheels which are also in on test. Those wheels are tubeless-compatible so we've opted for 30mm Schwalbe S-Ones for some winter comfort and grip. We haven't fitted any mudguards yet; we will, though. Maybe even a rack, who knows. Kinesis reckon you can go up to 32mm tyres with full guards so we should be okay.

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The colour-matched fork is a full carbon affair and it's fairly beefy, with as much clearance as possible while still being compatible with long-drop rim brakes. It's a standard 100mm QR rather than a through-axle, as there's not many through-axle wheels for a non-disc build. At the back, the dropouts are configurable for either 130mm spaced non-disc, or 135mm disc, wheels. Or even 130mm disc wheels, there's a few of them too.

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Finishing kit is dependable alloy gear: Deda seatpost, 3T stem, Zipp bars. Stuff we had knocking about, basically. The Prologo saddle is at a little bit of an angle because that's the way Dave likes it. If you're a spirit-level-wielding rules acolyte, that may offend you. So apologies in advance for that. Prologo do the bar tape, too.

Out of the big box, the frame weighs in at 1,710g and the fork is 470g. That's for a 60cm frame. All told the fully built bike tips the scales at a reasonable 8.95kg. The frame and fork retail for £649.99. We'll be putting some winter miles in and report back soon.  More at www.kinesisbikes.co.uk

David worked on the road.cc tech team from 2012-2020. Previously he was editor of Bikemagic.com and before that staff writer at RCUK. He's a seasoned cyclist of all disciplines, from road to mountain biking, touring to cyclo-cross, he only wishes he had time to ride them all. He's mildly competitive, though he'll never admit it, and is a frequent road racer but is too lazy to do really well. He currently resides in the Cotswolds, and you can now find him over on his own YouTube channel David Arthur - Just Ride Bikes

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jonboyausten | 8 years ago
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Well went out with my group yesterday morning for a three hour jaunt round the flatter sections of Surrey (for a change and not my choice!).  Group was reasonably strong with some unfamiliar faces.  The bike felt quite different to my other mounts (Cervelo R5 on 404s and Enigma Effusion on Fulcrum racing 1s), not altogether surprising considering the extra weight and fat tyres.  The ride was really smooth and roads that felt harsh on the other bikes now felt much better with little vibration getting to the handlebars.  Acceleration was a bit slower than I'm used to but once up to speed could maintain that speed easily.  Cornering felt secure although the lack of uphills meant few downhills to test high speeds.  I think the highest speed recorded yesterday was only about 50kph and at that speed it all felt very secure.  Brakes were good although I think I still have some air in the front so need to re-bleed.  It was dry yesterday morning so no chance to test the effectiveness of the mudguards but I expect them to work really well.  All in all a great first outing, receiving lots of compliments on the looks and I'm looking foward to more use, expecially if the weather finally turns wintery.

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Karbon Kev | 8 years ago
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That's very nice Mr Austen, +1 for the ride report

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Dr_Lex | 8 years ago
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Very smart, Mr Austen. Please update this thread with a ride report.

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jonboyausten | 8 years ago
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here it is:

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jonboyausten | 8 years ago
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I've just made myself one of these, but with Ultegra (and disc brakes) and Challenge Strada Bianca tyres (30mm wide).  I've also fitted SKS P45 guards which are a good fit, albeit quite close through the front fork.  All seems really good and I'm looking forward to the first proper ride tomorrow.  I think without guards you could probably go to 35mm wide tyres.

 

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Mayhem SWE | 8 years ago
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Very nice! Last couple weeks I've thought a lot about building one of these up myself. My build would be different though; steel silver frame, Sram Rival 1 groupset, ZTR Grail rims on DT 350 hubs, Ritchey WCS finishing kit and Specialized Power saddle.

How big tires can you squeeze in there without mudguards? I was hoping Schwalbe G-One 35-622 tires would work for dry gravel excursions during summer. Or perhaps an even better course of action would be to follow Cannondale's lead and build a 27.5" wheelset specifically for gravel, could 40-584 tires work without rubbing against stays and/or fork legs?

Shimano's new ST-RS505 levers (they're non-series, not 105!) sure look a whole lot bulkier than the earlier ST-RS685 model. Do they come with any sort of ergonomic or technical advantage or is the new form factor only somehow about hitting a lower price-point?

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dave atkinson replied to Mayhem SWE | 8 years ago
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Mayhem SWE wrote:

How big tires can you squeeze in there without mudguards? I was hoping Schwalbe G-One 35-622 tires would work for dry gravel excursions during summer. Or perhaps an even better course of action would be to follow Cannondale's lead and build a 27.5" wheelset specifically for gravel, could 40-584 tires work without rubbing against stays and/or fork legs?​

i'm not sure it quite has the clearance for 35s, they'd be a tight squeeze at least

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