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Chris Froome is all aboard the disc-brake hype train

The four-time Tour de France winner has changed his tune after suggesting the the technology wasn’t quite there earlier this year

Four-time Tour de France champion Chris Froome seems to have been converted to disc-brakes after complaining of rotor warping issues earlier in the season.

Froome recently took up a product development role with Factor, who provide bikes for the Israel Start-Up Nation team for which Froome rides and has suggested that while he still believes that disc brakes have a little way to go, working with Factor has at least solved most of the issues that he was experiencing at the start of the year.

> Chris Froome to play product development role for Factor

When the subject of disc brakes was brought up in an interview with Cycling News, Froome admitted that “I’ve been on them most of the season, I’ve only raced on rim brakes once or twice.

“I think it’s still a technology that is a work in progress for road bikes and there are still some issues for pro races. But it’s a technology that is evolving and I’ve been working with the guys from Factor. I’m one of the owners too, so development and feedback comes with my role there.”

> Check out Chris Froome's Factor Ostro VAM

Exactly what has changed with Froome’s setup is unclear, though he certainly wasn’t shy of trying a number of different parts in his search of braking perfection. Magura MT8 SL FM brakes made an appearance and as the Israel Start-Up Nation isn’t sponsored by Shimano and therefore required to use its full groupsets, the team has been able to use SwissStop pads and rotors.

It will be interesting to see whether Froome returns to Shimano callipers when the team eventually gets the new Dura-Ace R9200 groupset which claims to offer improved braking performance along with 10% wider pad clearance to alleviate unwanted rotor contact.

Playing with the components seems to have paid off with Froome saying that “we’ve actually ironed out most of the issues we were having earlier this year with disc brakes.”

> What’s wrong with Chris Froome’s disc brakes?

Going forward, it seems like Froome will be racing and training on disc brakes even more in 2022. “I’ve seen that the industry is making changes and improvements and so hopefully it’s a technology that will only get better and so only make the sport safer.”

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yupiteru | 2 years ago
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Capitalism at its finest.  When theres money to be made, all reasonable debate goes out of the window.

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Ihatecheese | 2 years ago
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I'm glad we have finally reached a point where on pro level disc brakes are are perceived to be as reliable as the rim variety. Obviously performance wise disc are better especially with the mechanics ensuring all is within spec, although they lose the super cool wooshing braking sounds.
Disc brakes don't suit me with my current requirements but I'm sure as prices for the high end lightweight options improve with ideally bigger gaps between piston and disc, then I'll be tempted again after my most recent Ultegra 6870/8050 foray!

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Sam3 | 2 years ago
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That anyone is carrying on this "debate' is shocking. Here in Scandinavia this train left the station a long time ago and hardly one wou,d even publish this storyline. Disc brakes are. Rim brakes were. End of story.

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Chris Hayes replied to Sam3 | 2 years ago
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Surely this is ultimately down to consumer choice rather than one brake system being better. Froome has spoken out about his concerns with disc brakes, though he's still experimenting and Pogacar uses a mix of rim / disc brakes, depending on the stage. So it would seem that at the highest level brake choice is more about suitability rather than performance. 

So, if you live in wet, hilly Western Norway I might understand your preference for discs - though some pretty outstanding riders managed without them for decades. But in Denmark or Sweden, most of which is pretty flat, I doubt you'd notice the difference.

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wycombewheeler replied to Sam3 | 2 years ago
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Sam3 wrote:

That anyone is carrying on this "debate' is shocking. Here in Scandinavia this train left the station a long time ago and hardly one wou,d even publish this storyline. Disc brakes are. Rim brakes were. End of story.

Luddites need something to do, now they are no longer smashing machines in the mills.

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IanEdward | 2 years ago
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I think it’s still a technology that is a work in progress for road bikes and there are still some issues for pro races.

Well based on Froome's cautious-at-best enthusiasm above I'd say it's only road.cc who are on board the hype train...

Is there such a thing as a 'Work-in-progress-with-some-issues' train? 

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huntswheelers | 2 years ago
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Cue the Froome and money comments, Cue the my disc brakes squeal posts, Cue the Rim v Disc comments.....lol.... Love it...

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EddyBerckx | 2 years ago
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Good on him. And shame on the miserable cynics on here!!

 

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risoto | 2 years ago
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Money speaks louder than words  1

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Gkam84 | 2 years ago
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It's as simple as this. Froome is now financially invested in Factor and Black Inc Wheels. So he needs to toe the company line and with their focus on trends going forward. Disc is their main business model, they only did rim brake to satisfy some of their sponsored teams. That will be phased out, so if he wants to see returns on his investment, he needs to put out statements like this. Using his standing while people are still interested in "his" opinion, before 2022 when we see him at the back of the race again.

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Simon E replied to Gkam84 | 2 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

It's as simple as this. Froome is now financially invested in Factor and Black Inc Wheels. So he needs to toe the company line and with their focus on trends going forward.

Did you hear this from ISN / Factor / Black Inc, Keith?

Or is it speculative bullshit based on nothing but your own opinion?

Factor & co do not need Froome's 'blessing' to sell disc-braked bikes or wheels. Discs seem to be outselling rim-braked on road bikes by some margin.

If he had gone all gooey-eyed over disc brakes and praised their performance at the beginning we would have called him a shill who simply repeats whatever his PR handlers tell him. The guy can't ever win, which says more about the cynics than it does about him.

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Blackthorne replied to Gkam84 | 2 years ago
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"At the back of the race again" eh? So a smug schadenfreude against a multi tdf winner and crash survivor who doesn't continue winning tdfs  justifies your opinion?

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Secret_squirrel | 2 years ago
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Funny how tunes change when there's money at stake/risk.

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Simon E replied to Secret_squirrel | 2 years ago
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Secret_squirrel wrote:

Funny how tunes change when there's money at stake/risk.

Are you saying 2+2 = 7?

From the article:

"Exactly what has changed with Froome’s setup is unclear, though he certainly wasn’t shy of trying a number of different parts in his search of braking perfection."

"Israel Start-Up Nation isn’t sponsored by Shimano and therefore required to use its full groupsets, the team has been able to use SwissStop pads and rotors."

He certainly wouldn't be the first to play with components to solve or reduce a niggling issue. Eddy Merckx was famous for it, even stopping mid-race to make tiny adjustments his seat, and Mark Cavendish is one of many riders who are very specific about their bike setup.

I'd like to think that a high profile pro rider making public comments about components (after all, he didn't mind speaking his mind the first time) might even help push manufacturers in a way that us plebs bleating about it would never achieve.

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Secret_squirrel replied to Simon E | 2 years ago
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Simon E wrote:

Are you saying 2+2 = 7?

From the article:

"Exactly what has changed with Froome’s setup is unclear, though he certainly wasn’t shy of trying a number of different parts in his search of braking perfection."

Nope more like simultaneous equations.  I'm saying Occam's razor applies.  If its not obvious that anything has changed mechanically then you look at what else has obviously changed.  Which is Froomey has taken a stake in Factor and now has a vested interest in upselling their bikes disc brakes and all.  Conjecture yes but plausible from the information in the article.  

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Welsh boy | 2 years ago
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The PR team have obviously had a word in his ear.

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