Ever waddled across a slippery cafe floor amid a mid-ride coffee stop and questioned why road cycling shoes can be so impractical when doing any distance of walking? Well, one road.cc reader thinks he's come up with the solution — no, not switching to mountain bike pedals and cleats — instead, a new third shoe and cleat design to offer riders the same old road shoes and pedals we've been using for years, but with the added practicality of mountain bike cleats. Introducing the "walkable cleat"...
Designed with one very specific activity in mind, road cycling cleats and the shoe sole design they work with, aren't very practical before and after your pedalling. Step off the bike as you head back inside your house, or worse up steep stairs to your flat, or across that shop's smooth, slippery flooring and suddenly you'll begin that hobbling/waddle you've probably all perfected and don't even think about any more. It's that same clip-clopping shuffle that your office colleagues, family, friends and complete strangers can be so interested in too.
Or maybe you don't have that problem at all because you use mountain bike pedals and can walk untroubled by a cleat making your progress continually treacherous, loud and impractical? But, not wanting to have to use mountain bike cleats, as he has on his road bike for the past 30 years, road.cc reader Hugo Suy got in touch with a new "third design" of cycling shoe that he thinks could potentially bridge the gap and offer road cyclists the option of continuing to use the same pedals we've used up until now, just without all the "walking like ducks".
Hugo's been trying to get the cycling industry to take notice for 10 years now and tells us being "as stubborn as a mule" means he just can't give the idea up. Now recently retired, he's got the time for his "project" and formalised his description of, as he sees it, the problem and solution, including the homemade "silly tests" you'll see throughout this article.
[Credit: Hugo Suy]
Having bought and ridden Sidi shoes for 25 years, he has long since wondered why road cycling soles and cleats are designed the way they are and if, rather than simply switching to mountain bike shoes and pedals, cycling brands could offer us roadies a third type of sole?
As he puts it: "Why do millions and millions of cyclists have to walk like ducks when shoes are made for only a few thousands of competition cyclists?"
"For several years I've tried to explain why we need a third type of sole for cycling shoes so we can continue with the race pedals we've used until now," Hugo tells us. "Shoe manufacturers (only) have to make a third type of injection mould and it's done!"
"So, if you can convince a cycling shoe manufacturer to make the third type of sole, I'll be very glad and I'll buy immediately, even if it isn't Sidi..."
We thought we'd brainstorm what cycling shoe brands would probably say about this design.
We imagine there would be comments about extra weight from the added material, an often non-negotiable area when designing cycling kit. Then, we'd assume, any brand would also point out their range of mountain bike shoes that essentially do the same thing as what Hugo suggests, something like Sidi's MTB Eagle 10 for example.
However, during his decade-long pursuit of the design, Hugo has put it to figures in the cycling industry, a former Ritchey employee apparently telling him he liked the design, while another suggested it sounded like "the perfect gravel shoe". Hugo also contacted two French brands Véloland and Culture Vélo to see if they'd make him a few pairs, but to no avail.
Back in 2016, Speedplay released its Zero Aero Walkable cleats which we reviewed as a "much-improved cleat that makes walking easier and reduces clogging problems", however of course the Speedplay pedal design, while having the same issues when trying to walk in a shoe featuring its cleat, is different to the three-bolt Shimano SPD-SL-style cleat we're talking about here.
Likewise, brands like CHPT3 and Adidas have brought walkable cycling shoes to the market through the Transit 2.0 and Velosamba, although both of those are aimed at more casual riding or commuting, and both call upon SPD compatibility.
Ultimately, Hugo just wants to keep using his road shoes, with road pedals and cleats, but would quite like to be able to walk when off the bike.
We contacted Sidi to ask if we could put this to a designer to see what they think, but were told the brand didn't want to get involved with this one. So, it seems, Hugo's walkable cleat-less cycling life will continue... unless any brands fancy hooking him up with a few pairs of his own designs?
What do you reckon? Is there any need for the "third design"? Would you buy it? Or is it a solution that already exists in the form of mountain bike pedals and shoes? As ever, let us know what you think in the comments...
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I'm not soled on these.
Replacement lugs for MTB shoes are already widely available (e.g. pictured below S-Works kit), why not just glue those (with suitable shims if more depth is required) to your SPD-SL shoes and job's a gooden.
No.
If hot-gluing pencil erasers to the bottoms of his shoes makes it easier for him to walk in cafe stops, then all power to him. But I'm not sure there is a commercial product here.
I hope he turns his attention to diving flippers next and finds a way to make them less cumbersome to walk in
Shimano XC (SPD) shoes work fine for me on my road bike.
Tried SL pedals with different shoes, obviously - cleats just too awkward for walking for me and wear really quick so went back to SPD.
Exactly my experience, have two pairs of Shimano XCs, some Specialized MTB shoes and some SIDI winter boots, all SPD which means they can all be used with all three bikes. SPD-SL in London, where one's continually having to put one's foot down, is too slippery and costs a fortune in cleats (I have yet to wear out an SPD cleat, some of mine are over ten years old and have moved from shoe to shoe). The convenience of being able to walk normally when shopping or going into pubs and cafes far outweighs the supposed efficiency benefits and being double sided means I clip in first time, every time, something which even pros sometimes seem unable to do with SLs.
This is solution looking for a problem. These do nothing that you can't get from a MTB SPD shoe. If you are worried about pedal surface area then you include a more platform style MTB pedal.
I use Hope Union Trail pedals across all my bikes Road or Offroad as they have a small-med sized platform. It also means my waterproof SPD boots double as Winter road shoes with no messing about with overshoes.
If after 10 years of 'inventing' all he's got are these morbid photos of bodged bits of foam and rubber glued to old soles then it's no wonder he's found no traction. If you're walking so much in your SPD-SLs, get yourself some SPDs, case closed.
The thing is if it's a case of pitching something to shoe brands he doesn't even need to do that. Shoe designers already know how to put lugs on the bottom of their shoes, they do it every day on MTB shoes. It's not like they don't already realise they could do it on road shoes as well if they wanted to. The only thing stopping them is the absolute lack of any appreciable target market.
I thought that was a big part of what he said he had solved.
SPD-SL (and similar cleats from other brands) exist because SPD MTB doesn't do everything they do equally well. And if you want SPD-SL pedals for those reasons (possibly with race shoes), and also want to use the same bike with walkable shoes sometimes, but not to have to swap pedals, this is an answer.
Whether there's enough of a market to make it worthwhile is another question.
SPD-SL is inferior in every way way to SPD except for Road racing and fashion.
99.9% of recreational riders would actually be better off with SPDs
If someone could develop a cleat cover for speed plays that don't go AWOL after a month of general use with minimal foot down, I'd appreciate that.