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None of these artists impressions ever show huge tailbacks of massive SUVs nose to tail. Engines running, phones a scrolling. You know, reality...
They should get ColdWarSteve in to do 'em.
Now they just need to encourage shops on Park Street that aren't artisan gin bars, barbers, or charity shops…
It's what the people want, though
Bristol Park Street?
That looks more like Gin Lane
Also wanted: an uphill travellator for peds and bikes. Bristolians often consider Park Street to be one of the world's most difficult climbs, and the quintessential hill-of-cycling-prevention.
I ride it every day, as I work just off Park Street.
You know, I have noticed that going down it is a lot easier than going up
That's why I tend to go via Colston Street and Park Row!
Jacob's Wells Road for me. Similar gradient, fewer witnesses.
I'm just glad that the cycle path towards the new Ashley Down station has re-opened as I was often going up Ashley Hill instead - guaranteed to have a car or two following you.
(The Post didn't seem to have all the pics - they are available on the council's news site here).
The design details - such as you can see on a very cursory inspection - look good. In particular the continuous footway (Robert Weetman has a good guide to different "styles" and a checklist for assessing "quality" / effectiveness here).
But how does it look at the network level?
Obviously with Bristol's hills, quite a few people would appreciate public transport to get up them - but will it feel safe grinding uphill with the buses? (Answer: probably an improvement compared to doing same plus cars?) Will the buses just get stuck behind all the traffic at the "bus gates"? (AKA "where do you want us to put the congestion?")
Does it aid any "cycling network"?
I think the changes are going to be of more benefit to pedestrians and the shops along Park St, but there's usually a fair amount of two wheeled traffic up and down there. The hill won't be so problematic for the e-bike/e-scooter riders.
Although "run up Park St faster than the two-up e-scooter" is a fun game.
They've got some changes planned for further along Queens Road too - that looks very different from the current roundabout. (https://maps.app.goo.gl/HbJ9b2SL2eHf1VXS6)
I think changes there will be genuinely beneficial. I'm not so sure changes on Park St will benefit cycling – though they should reinvigorate the street as a destination.
I agree.
I've not found Park St to be that bad for cycling (apart from the uphill bit) - I think where it goes into the Triangle is worse as that has the different lanes that require bold positioning to not get pushed in to the pavement and drivers often don't know what lane they should use.
That bit at the top is horrible (from the traffic lights at the top of Park Street all along to the bend by Forbidden Planet).
As far as I have been able to tell, motorists are allowed to get in the correct lane (eg. right hand lane for going right and off toward Whiteladies Road, left hand lane for Jacobs Wells Road) ahead of time and to freely move between lanes if they make a mistake, but cyclists are expected to stay far left no matter what
Yeah, I'm usually fairly bold with lane positioning, but I'd often stay to the left at those traffic lights as it's slower to set off due to the uphill bit. I find it easier to move out after most of the cars have gone past, but you do need to keep a look out for drivers changing lane or overtaking and then trying to turn left.
I'll see your Forbidden Planet and raise it to the Victoria Rooms. Everything from the Park Street - Queens Rd - Park Row junction to there needs reshaping.
See my earlier comment that includes a pic of the changed road in front of the Victoria Rooms.