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Schwable Pro Ones vs Conti GP5000's tubeless

My summer wheels (Hunt 44/54's) have always been set up tubeless running Pro One TLE's and I've never managed to get them to seal any better than losing approx 5 psi a day.  Which is fine for a day ride but lousy for a multiday.

In an effort to get them to seal better I replaced the Hunt tape (suspicions confirmed by finding sealant in the spoke sockets) but didnt manage a great seal with the Schwalbes.   (BTW dont buy Peaty's tape - its crap)

Last straw was yesterday on the bed in ride when the front lost all pressure after 8 miles.

Trying to diagnose it at home I managed to get a really good seal, but only for the tyre to split where the carcass meets the rim.   So new tyre time.

Suspecting the Pro Ones were part of the problem I grabbed a GP5000 from Wiggle.

Just fitted it and got a loverly "double ping" from it with no sealant.   Plus point was also that it took a single tyre lever rather than a double knuckle scratching effort with the Schwalbes.  Still to test long term air holding ability but initial fitting is night and day with the GP5000 compared to the schwalbe.

So long story short - Are Schwables just crap quality?  This isnt the first time I've had problems.  I had other pro ones with bulgy tread and Marathons that were lever snappers.  My G-ones were quite leaky too.  Replaced those with wider WTB resolutes which seem to hold air much better.

So in short are Schwable pants or is it just me?

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996ducati | 1 year ago
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I was running Pro Ones on Hunts and they were exceptionally tight. Two ripped tyres later (tubeless) I switched to Conti GP5000 TL. In this instance the installation was done with thumbs (no metal levers), and popped staright on. GP5000TL are my go to now, faster rolling, great grip wet and dry and dont need metal levers to remove.

Never had issues with deflation on Pro Ones, often the very cheap (supplied) valves are suspect. Its worth spending a few quid on some branded ones.

Stll running the old Schwalbe TLE tubeless on my winter bike and they are far easier to install/remove and only around £40 if bought from a big German online bike shop  1

 

 

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IanMSpencer | 1 year ago
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I've commented before about Ones being a problem. I think the thread count is too low or the wrong quality as even small cuts seem to be unstable and prone to too much movement to seal. I also sent one back because there was a fault on the edge that meant it wouldn't sit cleanly enough on the rim to seal.

I've not tested extensively, but GP5000 have been faultless over about 3 or more years with good life and plenty of no-deflation punctures, and I also found the Giant own brand tyres to work fine too.

I've always been very disappointed with the Schwalbe brand, but partly that is the disappointment in realising the name means swallow not swift. These things niggle me!

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Welsh boy | 1 year ago
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When I tried tubeless (before going back to tubes but that is for a different thread) I used pro ones and found that they fitted with just my (arithmetic) thumbs and held pressure perfectly well but they cut up and punctured beyond anything sealant could deal with in no time at all (I replaced the first split one putting it down to bad luck) but when it's replacement and the other tyre went the same way I gave up on them. 3 expensive tyres in the bin before the tread had even started to wear down. 

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Rich_cb | 1 year ago
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I've never had any real issue with pro ones, have been running them for years.

They did tend to lose pressure but when I changed to Silca sealant that problem resolved.

I also run GP5000 tubed on another bike, really good tyres but I find them slightly lacking in wet grip.

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emjay49 | 1 year ago
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I've run Pro Ones for a good few years mainly on Hunt, with no issues with either tyre or wheels. The last time I wanted tyres, I couldn't get the Pro Ones so ended up with P Zeros for which I've found to be great with a ping ping inflation without sealant and ride quality with the same feel as the Pro Ones. No loss of pressure either, they looked and felt a real quality product out of the box as well. Well worth a try imo.

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peted76 | 1 year ago
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I've run Schwalbe tubeless since road tubeless was a thing.. and when set up they've been amazing tyres.. I have had some quality control issues (e.g. two which seeped sealant 'loads'.. another which the sidewall casing came apart) but I've stuck with them because they have generally been fantastic... however I recently swapped to Conti 5000 tubeless because of the real world tyre sizes. I used to run a 23mm/25mm F/R Schwalbe which came up at 26&28.5mm. I now run 25/28 F/R Contis which come up at 26/28mm. In the past few months of running the Conti's.. I must say I like em.. they feel fast and assured...and if anything maybe slightly grippier than the Schwalbes.

I personally have no problem riding either Schwalbe Pro Ones or the new Conti's 5000's tubeless. I've found (the hard way) that it's all in the initial set up (and sealant.. that's a huge factor but perhaps not in this context).

 

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huntswheelers | 1 year ago
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It's just you..... as for Hunt and other wheels and the so called "rim tape".... I bin it off and fit rim strips instead. I tend to use Mariposa one's and even retrofit to some wheels. A customer with a Giant that had tubeless from new, found that the tyre went flat and sealant leaked out of the hole in the side of the rim..... turned out the tape was weak around one of the spoke holes...... rim strips fitted and up no worries then ,sealant via the valve. I use One's on the road bikes of mine, tubeless but Panaracer Gravelkings in 2 variants on different wheel sets with no problems either.  I have had issues with tyres on customer Hunt wheels.... conti 5000's.... so I guess everyday is a school day 

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Secret_squirrel replied to huntswheelers | 1 year ago
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I didnt know rim strips were a thing.  As you say every days a school day.

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Miller | 1 year ago
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I've used a wide selection of Schwalbe TLR tyres over the years, road and gravel, and got on very well with all of them. If you're losing pressure on yours I would be looking at the rim taping and also at the internal seal of the valve. Both are critical. I think many (complaining) TLR users blame their tyres when it's the tape and the valve seal that is the root cause of their issues.

Nothing against Conti tyres. I have a pair of the original GP5K TLR and they are fast and seem to be indestructible. 

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Secret_squirrel replied to Miller | 1 year ago
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Echo the valves statement.  The Hunt ones are a bit naff.  I used to have schwable ones that were shaved down parallel sides so they fitted in the channel better.

 

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