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Slip and nasty fall

Hi All,

This Sunday I switched back to my road bike after the winter using my gravel bike. All was going well until I reached a downhill corner at which point my tyres lost all traction on the road - and I mean all traction. It was like I was on ice. I tried to brake but was not able to in time, and my bike slid out from under me leaving me with some very nasty grazes on my arm and leg. 

I cycle about 7K a year and have done that particular corner hundreds of times - nothing like that has ever happened before. I'm struggling to understand what happened and how I might avoid such a fall in the future. The morning was warm and humid and there had been a tiny amount of rain earlier on after a couple of dry weeks.

I'm now nervous to get back on my bike (well the grazes are still too bad anyway).. but I'm wondering if anybody else has experienced similar, what you think the cause was, and what you've done to try and mitigate when riding again afterwards.

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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David9694 | 14 min ago
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This isn't one of those "aren't GatorSkins terrible" threads is it? Isn't the complaint that they acquired a smooth glossy sheen? 

I took a similar-ish sounding spill a few years ago. It's a dip the road with a bend at the bottom that I normally tackled the other  direction.The bike just seemed to get away from me and accelerate, I braked, but I couldn't make the bend and hit a wire fence with posts at a shallow angle - wrote off my front wheel and never trusted the frame again (CF).  A few bruises,  not a show stopper and hopefully not for you either.

As I understand it, a dry spell sees a lot of car gunk builds up on the surface and a bit of rain "activates" it and makes things slippery, though not so bad as to give the effect you describe.  The other time this happened to me is on newly painted double yellow lines, which were damp - I rolled across them and was promptly dumped on the ground with the bike seeming to just vanish to the side. 

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chrisotherwise | 6 hours ago
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Thanks for all the kind replies. I was back on my bike yesterday and went and had a look at where I had my fall. No obvious diesel on the road or anything else for that matter. Lots of sand around and lots of tractors. But nothing different from anywhere else I cycle. Very strange. This is the spot:

https://w3w.co/glassware.subsets.masts

I'm still worried that there might be some issue with my bike and have been very very careful going into corners. Hopefully I'll get some more confidence back as I ride. 

I put large hydrocolloid dressings on my (very deep) grazes. The speed of healing with these on is nothing short of astonishing. No scab forms, and the wound just heals under the dressing. Highly recommended if you ever get this sort of injury. 

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OnYerBike replied to chrisotherwise | 3 hours ago
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chrisotherwise wrote:

Thanks for all the kind replies. I was back on my bike yesterday and went and had a look at where I had my fall. No obvious diesel on the road or anything else for that matter. Lots of sand around and lots of tractors. [...]

Is that normal for that spot? Pretty sure sand (and/or other sand-like substances) is commonly used to soak up spilled diesel, so if a load of sand has suddenly appeared in that spot, it would be indicative that there had been a diesel spill there. 

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Rendel Harris | 9 hours ago
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+1 for diesel; is the corner on a bus route? They're the worst culprits though there are plenty of others. Often impossible to see, one of my regular routes takes me past a bus garage and however carefully you scan the tarmac there's always the risk of missing the "liquid black ice", particularly if there's been some rain because the water seems to take away its characteristic rainbow sheen. Not a lot you can do about it except take a line round corners where the filler cap wouldn't be to give yourself the best chance of missing any trail from a leaking vehicle. Wishing you a speedy recovery and hope you're back on the bike soon.

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wtjs replied to Rendel Harris | 2 hours ago
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This is interesting- there are very many buses passing up and down here all the time: school buses, Stagecoach etc. and there are several 90 degree corners, but this diesel spill problem doesn't exist. Maybe it's because the bus garages where they must fill up are several miles away in both directions.

However, while cycling back to Garstang from Lancaster, I did see a big BMW go down on a trail of diesel which came onto the main road from a farm side road- and that was a straight section of road coming towards me and the rider was behaving perfectly sensibly, just ambling along

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Rendel Harris replied to wtjs | 4 hours ago
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Yes, I think it happens directly after they've filled the tank, don't know why though.

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mark1a replied to Rendel Harris | 3 hours ago
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The filler caps are often vented to allow air to escape as the liquid expands in warmer temperatures, and air to be let in as the fuel level goes down.

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Rendel Harris replied to mark1a | 58 min ago
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mark1a wrote:

The filler caps are often vented to allow air to escape as the liquid expands in warmer temperatures, and air to be let in as the fuel level goes down.

Ah, interesting. One would've thought it's not beyond the bounds of possibility to create some sort of U-bend or one-way valve fixture that could let the air out/in without letting the fuel out as well?

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Karlt | 5 days ago
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In January I came off on a low speed bend just like that - no warning; front wheel just went. Long story short I'm waiting for physios to clear me to ride on my newly replaced hip.

Probably diesel as it was the entrance to a railway station heavily used by buses and taxis. Unfortunately it's just $#!+ That Happens.

I'm also concerned about a repeat so I'm replacing the road bike with a gravel in the hope that the grip will be better.

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mark1a | 6 days ago
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Sorry to hear this, it could be due to a diesel spill. I sometime see vehicles that have been filled to the brim and then it as it turns a corner in the opposite direction to the side the filler is on, fuel leaks from the filler neck, and if it's diesel, doesn't evaporate. 

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Miller | 6 days ago
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I was on a group ride once when about half a dozen of us came off simultaneously. It was May, the road was under trees, we think a huge amount of aphids on the new leaves had dripped slimy tree sap onto the road surface.
Got a dislocated shoulder out of that one.

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PRSboy | 6 days ago
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Sorry to read that, hope you're back out again soon!  Sounds like you're an experienced rider and it was one of those things.

Salt ironically is certainly slippery, or maybe there was some diesel on the approach. 

After a dry period, there is a build-up of rubber and other debris which can be slippery when wet- this can be particularly bad in a summer shower on the Continent.

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the little onion | 6 days ago
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First up - wishing you a speedy recovery.

The same has happened to me. I don't know whether it is due to the physics of tyres being cold, old, or soemthing like that. My biggest suspicion is that, at this time of year, the roads have a LOT of runoff on them. Lots of bits of tiny gravel, road salt, etc, particularly if there has recently been heavy rain, like mini ball bearings. Just take it easy in the corners. 

I suspect the answer is to build the confidence back up - brake early for corners, relax into them, don't brake or accelarate in corners, get your centre of gravity lower and go on the drops. Relax, relax, relax, and avoid the "death grip" on the handlebars.

Of course, this is easier said than done. 

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