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Pinarello Dogma FS offers electronic full suspension to “absorb 42% of vibrations”

Pinarello launches electronic full suspension road bike for Paris-Roubaix

Ahead of the cobbled classic Paris-Roubaix on Sunday, Pinarello has launched its brand new Dogma FS with electronically adjusted front and rear suspension. The new bike provides 20mm front and 11mm rear suspension travel and is claimed to be able to “absorb in average 42% of the vibration coming from the ground that directly means an increase in comfort and bike stability,” and can be automatically or manually controlled.

In their own testing, of which data we haven’t seen, Pinarello claims the new Dogma FS is 15 seconds quicker through the  Carrefour de l’Arbre cobble sector that is a key part of the Paris-Roubaix race compared to a regular rigid road bike.

- Specialized Roubaix with Future Shock 2.0 launched

pinarello fs rear 2

We first saw the rear suspension technology on the Dogma K8s four years ago with DSS1.0 and then two years later that was followed by eDSS2.0 on the K10S developed by fellow Italian company HiRide. It utilised a small suspension damper at the top of the seat stays with flexible pivot-less carbon chainstays and could adjust automatically or manually to suit the terrain.

pinarello fs front

The new DSAS (Dogma Smart Adaptive System) technology has been revised with the addition of front suspension, providing a genuine full suspension road bike. The front suspension comprises a metal coil spring housed inside a wider head tube. Hydraulic damping controls the suspension and it can be electronically adjusted from open to locked out to suit different terrain.

pinarello dogma fs2

At 20mm it offers the same amount of suspension travel as the Future Shock 2.0 on the Specialized Roubaix, but the key difference is that the Pinarello system suspends the bike and rider, whereas the Future Shock only suspends the rider.

The rear suspension provides 10mm of vertical deflection and the movement is controlled by a simple elastomer. It’s an electro-hydraulic system allowing the damper to be locked out or fully open, again to suit the terrain.

Both front and rear suspension can be opened and locked out automatically. Gyroscopes and accelerometers are apparently able to detect when the terrain changes from smooth road to rough cobbles and can open and lock the suspension as required.

pinarello dogma fs3

Alternatively, the rider can take complete control and choose the mode from a control interface located on the downtube. That doesn’t seem like the most accessible place to have a control device. It can also be adjusted and adapted using a smartphone app, but we doubt the Team Sky boys will be using that in the race. There’s also a Garmin app so settings can be changed from the Edge computer unit which seems more sensible.

The threshold required to activate the suspension can also be changed. It’s all powered by a “smart battery pack” housed inside the seat tube.

“DSAS is able to adapt the​ suspension behaviour on each type of ground, automatically locking or unlocking it, ensuring maximum performance and stiffness on smooth tarmac and optimum comfort on bumpy and rough roads.”

The new tech is wrapped up in a frame made from T1100 1K “Dream Carbon with Nanoalloy Technology” with all the same asymmetric frame features as before, with an Onda fork, full internal cable routing, Italian threaded bottom bracket and maximum 28mm tyre clearance.

pinarello dogma fs1

That the bike only takes a 28mm maximum width tyre seems awfully outdated when most endurance bikes take at least a 32-35mm. Also, don’t expect any mudguard mounts, and there’s no sign of a disc brake version - all the press pics are for rim brakes. It’s clearly a bike designed expressly for Team Sky and there appears to be little attempt to market it to consumers who might ask for these practical considerations.

And yes, before you rush down to the comments, Cannondale has been down this route before with its HeadShox. Is it a bad thing to revisit old concepts with the latest technologies before writing them off as been there done that?

We’ve got a couple of people on the ground in the Arenberg forest today and tomorrow who will be seeing the new bike first-hand and putting it through its paces, so stay tuned for a more in-depth first look and first ride impressions.

pinarello fs tube

“The Paris-Roubaix is absolutely the race where the bike can take on a decisive role for victory or defeat. A gruelling race where everything is played on the deadly stretches of cobblestones, where the control of the bike is crucial. DOGMA FS represents the perfect combination between the best road frame on the market today and the best electronic technology at the service of a bicycle. The tests first in the laboratory and then on the road with Team Sky leave no doubt, Dogma FS is able to make the difference on this terrain, then as always sport teaches us, we need a bit of luck …” says head honcho Fausto Pinarello. 

“Road racing takes many forms, and in Pinarello, we have a great partner who recognises the need to support the team, and the diverse demands of our race calendar. The Dogma FS combines the latest in frame and electronic technology to give our riders a dynamic bike that is fully adaptable for all terrains and can be controlled directly by the rider or fully automatic. It’s the perfect addition to our portfolio and is the latest result of our evolving partnership with Pinarello, giving our riders a unique handling and racing experience to help them optimise their performance,” Carsten Jeppesen, Team Sky.

We’ve no word on pricing or availability at the present time. More info on Pinarello's website. 

David worked on the road.cc tech team from 2012-2020. Previously he was editor of Bikemagic.com and before that staff writer at RCUK. He's a seasoned cyclist of all disciplines, from road to mountain biking, touring to cyclo-cross, he only wishes he had time to ride them all. He's mildly competitive, though he'll never admit it, and is a frequent road racer but is too lazy to do really well. He currently resides in the Cotswolds, and you can now find him over on his own YouTube channel David Arthur - Just Ride Bikes

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peted76 | 5 years ago
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Agree with crazy-legs.. Matt Hayman the other year winning PR just decimated all of the years of manufacturer marketing claims regarding suspension, shocks, rox, elastometer (springs and rubber to you and I).. Such a good story of such a nice bloke. 

 

However you've got to love innovation, we'd all be miffed if nothing new was brought to market each year.. 

In the case of the Dogma RS, if Pinerallo can save just one dentist's arse from being quite as sore as the poor sap on a non suspension road bike, then good on em I say.

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fukawitribe replied to peted76 | 5 years ago
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peted76 wrote:

Agree with crazy-legs.. Matt Hayman the other year winning PR just decimated all of the years of manufacturer claims regarding suspension, shocks, rox, elastometer (rubber to you and I)..

..and presumably the victories by those on bikes with suspension confirmed all of the years of manufacturers claims etc etc ?

peted76 wrote:

Such a good story of such a nice bloke. 

Absolutely.

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crazy-legs | 5 years ago
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I'm not sure the mystique given to Paris-Roubaix at the moment is really justified. It seems to be massively hyped up every year with lots of talk of one-off bikes just for the cobbles and tyres matured for a decade in a dusty Belgian cupboard and tyre pressures being marked as Top Secret and all manner of "innovations" supposedly targeted just at this one race.

Similar to when car manufacturers tell you their car is the fastest [insert ludicrously specific car type] to go round the Nurburgring - it doesn't make the blindest bit of difference in the real world.

Bit like when Matt Hayman pissed off all the bike manufacturers by winning it on a bog standard Scott Foil (except for 28mm tyres). It's a great race to watch and usually quite unpredictable which makes it fun but it's also been given a layer of hype, reverence and almost superstitious awe that just annoys me.

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Scoob_84 replied to crazy-legs | 5 years ago
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crazy-legs wrote:

I'm not sure the mystique given to Paris-Roubaix at the moment is really justified. It seems to be massively hyped up every year with lots of talk of one-off bikes just for the cobbles and tyres matured for a decade in a dusty Belgian cupboard and tyre pressures being marked as Top Secret and all manner of "innovations" supposedly targeted just at this one race.

Similar to when car manufacturers tell you their car is the fastest [insert ludicrously specific car type] to go round the Nurburgring - it doesn't make the blindest bit of difference in the real world.

Bit like when Matt Hayman pissed off all the bike manufacturers by winning it on a bog standard Scott Foil (except for 28mm tyres). It's a great race to watch and usually quite unpredictable which makes it fun but it's also been given a layer of hype, reverence and almost superstitious awe that just annoys me.

 

Of all the inovations that go into these bikes and race, its really just about having big tyres. 

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Htc replied to Scoob_84 | 5 years ago
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Scoob_84 wrote:

crazy-legs wrote:

I'm not sure the mystique given to Paris-Roubaix at the moment is really justified. It seems to be massively hyped up every year with lots of talk of one-off bikes just for the cobbles and tyres matured for a decade in a dusty Belgian cupboard and tyre pressures being marked as Top Secret and all manner of "innovations" supposedly targeted just at this one race.

Similar to when car manufacturers tell you their car is the fastest [insert ludicrously specific car type] to go round the Nurburgring - it doesn't make the blindest bit of difference in the real world.

Bit like when Matt Hayman pissed off all the bike manufacturers by winning it on a bog standard Scott Foil (except for 28mm tyres). It's a great race to watch and usually quite unpredictable which makes it fun but it's also been given a layer of hype, reverence and almost superstitious awe that just annoys me.

 

Of all the inovations that go into these bikes and race, its really just about having big tyres. 

No it’s really not.

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simonmb | 5 years ago
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This is all very well, but everyone appears to have missed the fact that Pinarello has created the world's first levitating bike. And, surely that's the best way to mitigate the effects of the cobbles.

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Scoob_84 | 5 years ago
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Have these ever trouble the P-R podium?

 

https://roadbikeaction.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/b6.jpg

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David Arthur @d... replied to Scoob_84 | 5 years ago
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Scoob_84 wrote:

Have these ever trouble the P-R podium?

 

https://roadbikeaction.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/b6.jpg

Gilbert Duclos-Lassalle and Andre Tchmil between them won Paris-Roubaix on three occasions using the RockShox suspension fork. So suspension has been used to great success in this race before Sagan repeated it last year

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fukawitribe replied to Scoob_84 | 5 years ago
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Scoob_84 wrote:

Have these ever trouble the P-R podium?

 

https://roadbikeaction.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/b6.jpg

Nope, but we'll never know what might have occured in '94 with the Bianchi/Litespeed X-frame one had Museeuw not have a tyre blow up when the break went. Apparently he loved the bike. The bike had a small crack in the frame after (didn't effect the ride so say) and wasn't re-raced due to cost apparently - then GB MG split and Bianchi stopped being the sponsor. Love for that tyre to have stayed air-tight, being interesting to know what might have happened.... 

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Scoob_84 | 5 years ago
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All pointless as i can't think of anyone riding a Penarello who will be going for the win at P-R.

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Nick T | 5 years ago
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Fuck sake just do it on a scrambler

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janusz0 | 5 years ago
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Sigh. For once, this is something* I'd like to see the UCI ban! How are we going to enjoy the performances of the "hard (wo)men" of cycling? Might as well do it all on Zwift.
These inventions might benefit commuting and touring bikes if they had at least 5,000 mile service intervals.
*Needs to start with head shock rider suspension style solutions.

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PRSboy | 5 years ago
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Looks like just the job for the 'roads' in west Berkshire, south oxon.  They make the Belgian cobbles look like an autobahn.

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