Police appeal to find Edinburgh cyclist after motorcyclist dies following collision

burtthebike wrote:

But how could the motorcyclist have died?  He was wearing a helmet, and as we all know, they prevent death.

No body says this; no need to be facetious.

burtthebike wrote:

But how could the motorcyclist have died?  He was wearing a helmet, and as we all know, they prevent death.

You fucking horrible piece of shit - you go push your fucking agenda to the family of the motorcylist ivolved. Go talk about statistics, cause and effect and whole ridiculous helmet debate elsewhere - someone is not going home, ever.

Jharrison5 wrote:

Cycling is prohibited on the West Approach Road. Details again road.cc... Your journalism is undermined when you are careless with letters and words.

Key point "at the junction with Roseburn Street" (where cycling is allowed). Entirely plausible that one or other party disregarded the traffic lights and the collision resulted. Should have been busy enough there for witnesses though, but being Embra they were probably rushing home for tea...

Man of Lard wrote:

Jharrison5 wrote:

Cycling is prohibited on the West Approach Road. Details again road.cc... Your journalism is undermined when you are careless with letters and words.

Key point "at the junction with Roseburn Street" (where cycling is allowed). Entirely plausible that one or other party disregarded the traffic lights and the collision resulted. Should have been busy enough there for witnesses though, but being Embra they were probably rushing home for tea...

Wouldn't that be Westfield Road?

Jharrison5 wrote:

Man of Lard wrote:

Jharrison5 wrote:

Cycling is prohibited on the West Approach Road. Details again road.cc... Your journalism is undermined when you are careless with letters and words.

Key point "at the junction with Roseburn Street" (where cycling is allowed). Entirely plausible that one or other party disregarded the traffic lights and the collision resulted. Should have been busy enough there for witnesses though, but being Embra they were probably rushing home for tea...

Wouldn't that be Westfield Road?

Correct. Westfield Road, Roseburn Street  and the Western Approach all meet at their end points. The cyclist was presumably transiting between Roseburn Street and Westfield Road as cyclists are not allowed on the Western Approach. This is an area normally clogged in rush hour. If I were a gambling man I would bet on the motorcyclist overtaking stationary traffic and taking out the cyclist as he emerged onto the junction, but that's just a guess based on knowledge of the junction and the motorcyclist's direction of travel. The area is also very well lit.

Griff500 wrote:

Jharrison5 wrote:

Man of Lard wrote:

Jharrison5 wrote:

Cycling is prohibited on the West Approach Road. Details again road.cc... Your journalism is undermined when you are careless with letters and words.

Key point "at the junction with Roseburn Street" (where cycling is allowed). Entirely plausible that one or other party disregarded the traffic lights and the collision resulted. Should have been busy enough there for witnesses though, but being Embra they were probably rushing home for tea...

Wouldn't that be Westfield Road?

 

Correct. Westfield Road, Roseburn Street  and the Western Approach all meet at their end points. The cyclist was presumably transiting between Roseburn Street and Westfield Road as cyclists are not allowed on the Western Approach. This is an area normally clogged in rush hour. If I were a gambling man I would bet on the motorcyclist overtaking stationary traffic and taking out the cyclist as he emerged onto the junction, but that's just a guess based on knowledge of the junction and the motorcyclist's direction of travel. The area is also very well lit.

The crash could've been caused by several factors. The way you've written your comment suggests that the motorcyclist may have been at fault, which you simply do not know with the information given in the police report. If I was a family member of the deceased, I'd be very upset at that.

It's just as likely that the cyclist popped out from a line of stationary motor vehicles in front of the motorcyclist. This happened to me on my commute this morning. I was filtering carefully on my motorbike when a cyclist cut through the stuck cars. She got a very big fright. She hadn't looked properly or anticipated, but she should have known I was there as I was alongside her at the previous set of traffic lights. Luckily for both of us I was riding carefully. 

With my motorcyclist helmet on, I do find that many cyclists do not appreciate other road users will also be filtering. I think most experienced motorcyclists appreciate that any collision with any other road user will not end well, and will therefore try and avoid it. The same does not apply to the organ donors to be riding scooters on L plates though.

Just for the record...I was not on a dark bike. I had lights front and back and spare set in bag. The bike had many 3M reflective stickers on the frame so as to be seen from the side. I have gone through this junction hundreds of times. I had a navy jacket on. There was only one single car to my right, which was indicating to turn left into Roseburn Street where I was stationary. When I considered it safe to emerge from junction I took a direct line in the direction of the other side of the road where there is a wide layby. I saw no motorcycle and the road to my right is lit and curves in my favour. I was knocked unconscious and I believe the motorcyclist died of a heart attack on the way to hospital. This was a terrible accident and nobody was to blame. I took legal advise two days later and made a full voluntary statement to the police.

Speculation and assumption doesn't seem appropriate or particularly sensitive toward those directly involved.