Half of UK cyclists say they’ve been victims of road rage (+ infographic)

unclebadger wrote:

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There is a definite need to change the law to have stronger penalties for the many, many awful drivers out there. Especially feckin bus drivers that tailgate bicycles!!!

I've been off the bike for the last few weeks, so have been on the bus to and from work.

Sitting on a bus and seeing how closely the double-decker bus follows behind a cyclist in the bus lane or how closely the bus overtakes another cyclist...  I am sat there white-knuckled and wondering how come the vehicle that I'm paying a fare to be on, that's being driven by a so-called professional, hasn't been involved in a horrendous incident.  And that has been on every journey, so twice a day for five weeks.  The numbers game for it really doesn't look good 

brooksby wrote:

unclebadger wrote:

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There is a definite need to change the law to have stronger penalties for the many, many awful drivers out there. Especially feckin bus drivers that tailgate bicycles!!!

I've been off the bike for the last few weeks, so have been on the bus to and from work.

Sitting on a bus and seeing how closely the double-decker bus follows behind a cyclist in the bus lane or how closely the bus overtakes another cyclist...  I am sat there white-knuckled and wondering how come the vehicle that I'm paying a fare to be on, that's being driven by a so-called professional, hasn't been involved in a horrendous incident.  And that has been on every journey, so twice a day for five weeks.  The numbers game for it really doesn't look good 

If you are at the front you can take some mobile footage of it and post it up. 

I remember years ago when I was unemployed, my job centre was near the local bus garage. Anyone who was male had no skills/qualifications but had a driving licence with no points was sent to the local bus garage.  I also had some mates who drove buses as young men though a few of them rode various types of bike.  Since then I have little respect for "professional" drivers.

Bluebug wrote:

brooksby wrote:

unclebadger wrote:

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There is a definite need to change the law to have stronger penalties for the many, many awful drivers out there. Especially feckin bus drivers that tailgate bicycles!!!

I've been off the bike for the last few weeks, so have been on the bus to and from work.

Sitting on a bus and seeing how closely the double-decker bus follows behind a cyclist in the bus lane or how closely the bus overtakes another cyclist...  I am sat there white-knuckled and wondering how come the vehicle that I'm paying a fare to be on, that's being driven by a so-called professional, hasn't been involved in a horrendous incident.  And that has been on every journey, so twice a day for five weeks.  The numbers game for it really doesn't look good 

If you are at the front you can take some mobile footage of it and post it up. 

I remember years ago when I was unemployed, my job centre was near the local bus garage. Anyone who was male had no skills/qualifications but had a driving licence with no points was sent to the local bus garage.  I also had some mates who drove buses as young men though a few of them rode various types of bike.  Since then I have little respect for "professional" drivers.

Not sure why this article would interest you to comment when you've already clearly stated in another article that pedestrians are the greatest danger to yourself (and accuse others of  an alternate viewpoint to that (the one expressed here and everywhere else) as speaking more about them.

So, now that everyone on this forum is saying that motorists present by far the greater harm, people on bikes being in fear of harm and motorists do wrong all the time are you not going to out everyone with this way of thinking as it speaking far more about them than some alternate reality where motorists aren't the problem?

Well?

Bluebug wrote:

brooksby wrote:

unclebadger wrote:

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There is a definite need to change the law to have stronger penalties for the many, many awful drivers out there. Especially feckin bus drivers that tailgate bicycles!!!

I've been off the bike for the last few weeks, so have been on the bus to and from work.

Sitting on a bus and seeing how closely the double-decker bus follows behind a cyclist in the bus lane or how closely the bus overtakes another cyclist...  I am sat there white-knuckled and wondering how come the vehicle that I'm paying a fare to be on, that's being driven by a so-called professional, hasn't been involved in a horrendous incident.  And that has been on every journey, so twice a day for five weeks.  The numbers game for it really doesn't look good 

If you are at the front you can take some mobile footage of it and post it up. 

I remember years ago when I was unemployed, my job centre was near the local bus garage. Anyone who was male had no skills/qualifications but had a driving licence with no points was sent to the local bus garage.  I also had some mates who drove buses as young men though a few of them rode various types of bike.  Since then I have little respect for "professional" drivers.

I never sit up front.

But I've sat against a window on the pavement side of the bus, and EVERY SINGLE TIME the bus has overtaken a cyclist if there was no glass then I could have reached out  and easily  patted the cyclist's hand, and possibly stretched to reach their shoulder. Personally, I think that's a bit close...

Considering writing to the local bus company to complain (Excel, a subsidiary/division of First between Bristol and North Somerset).

Grahamd wrote:

Merlin cycles need to look at themselves as the info graphic about preventing road rage is very poor. Whilst it may be possible to deter some road rage by wearing a helmet cam and staying calm in the face of an onslaught could well stop a situation spiralling, neither can stop a self obsessed lunatic from their actions.

True, but Merlin can sell you cameras & lights.

Grumpy17 wrote:

Would it be asking too much to include some compulsory questions in every learner driver's theory test  specifically related to cyclists, along the lines of :

1) Cycle lanes- is it obligatory for cyclists to use them at all times when they are available?- yes or no?

2) Are cyclists prohibited by law from riding two abreast when cycling on the road- yes or no?

3) Is it illegal for cyclists to filter through stationary or very slow moving lanes of traffic- yes or no?

4) Which class of road user are more adversely affected by road defects and associated hazards such as potholes,raised /sunken grids, uneven road surfaces, diesel spillages etc.and should therefore be allowed more room and shown more consideration by other road users when negotiating these hazards.   Is it cyclists and motorcyclists or the drivers of 4 wheeled vehicles?

5) State four reasons why cycling is more beneficial for short journeys than using a car or motorised vehicle?

To begin with they can view a couple of tweets and briefly discuss the content:

https://twitter.com/wmpolice/status/776679721606209536

https://twitter.com/cycleshaz/status/947050279605821440

Then a practical: part 1 is a short bike ride in busy urban traffic, learning about ASLs, turning right, vehicles parked in cycle lanes and so on.

Once they've recovered from that they then do part 2 - riding on rural A- and B-roads. They will observe the numerous hazards, including but not restricted to potholes, litter, gravel, and how many drivers negotiate these routes with little or no regard for other road users. A short typed report should suffice (handwriting might be a little shaky if the rides have shown what passes for 'normal' riding conditions in this country).