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Dublin's College Green (source Paddy Smyth on YouTube).JPGCampaigners slam iconic Irish TV show after anti-cycling rant
Iconic Irish TV programme the Late Late Show has been slammed by cycling campaigners following an anti-cycling rant during Saturday evening’s transmission.
One guest on this week’s programme, an institution on TV in the Republic of Ireland since it was first broadcast by RTE in 1962, likened cyclists to “farm animals.”
Another compared cyclists to “trash.”
Dublin Cycling Campaign has now lodged an official complaint to regulators over comments of guests Maura Derrane and James Kavanagh in the segment, and against the show’s host, Ryan Tubidry.
Derrane, who also works at RTE, had said: “I like cycling, but one thing that really bothers me is three or four cyclists abreast ... on a country road where there's no need.
"Because I mean, are you in competition with a car? You're never going to be faster, and it's almost to piss people off that they do it. I know that."
In their complaint, Dublin Cycling Campaign said the comments made in the show were in contravention of Principle 5 of the Code of Programme Standards of the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland, which says “programme material shall not stigmatise, support or condone discrimination or incite hatred against persons or groups in society.”
They added: “We also expect the Late Late Show to broadcast a public apology on its next show and counter the misinformation that it broadcast, specifically about the issue of cycling two abreast which is perfectly legal behaviour on Irish roads.”
Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.
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They were not "in my space", they were in the other carriageway going in the opposite direction!
My point was that the cyclists I encountered on Sunday were riding in such a formation as to force those heading in the opposite direction to pass with less than 1.5 metre gap. So as they were creating a scenario (that they were in complete control of) showing that they were happy with a <1.5m pass then that is reinforcing in the minds of drivers that cyclists do not need 1.5m gap when being passed by cars.
Wow some people are just desperate to be a victim
WOW, some people are ignorant, desperate to out themselves as ignorant at that, congrats!
No, we're desperate not to be a victim, so when cycling/cyclists are being demonized in the media we react, because every little bit of negative representation makes it easier for some people to have an excuse to behave badly towards us on the road because, you know, cyclists.
Are you? Have you tried hiring one of those nice ladies who advertise in phone boxes, I'm sure they'd be able to accommodate you.
Its almost like because it's not seen as acceptable to be rasict or homophobic(signs like no blacks, no irish, no dogs come to mind.)any more that people have decided that Cyclists are the next minority group where is still acceptable to abuse and berate. Sad times.
Free speech is dead.
This is dictatorship in disguise.
Democracy is a fraud.
Enjoy your servitude.
It's strange as it looks like you're a native english speaker and yet you don't seem to understand any of the words that you're using.
Someone complaining about a national broadcast is actually the opposite of a dictatorship, but I suppose it goes against your right-wing racist agenda.
Your thinking is back-to-front.
In this scenario, the national broadcaster is actually acting as the standardbearer of free speech because they have given air time to people who hate. In a free society people should be allowed to hate who they want.
The people complaining about the programme are the ones who want to deny others their freedom. They are complaining on the following grounds: “... programme material shall not stigmatise, support or condone discrimination or incite hatred against persons or groups in society.”
A society where people cannot hate is not a free one.
And RTE is a free-for-all, with no selection, and gives airtime to haters of all kinds? Really? Seems to me they engage in selection and control who gets access to the airwaves. Tedious unoriginal, and dully-expressed anti-cyclsit ranting gets on, but I don't see any Islamists preaching hate of Christians, for example.
So clearly thsi isn't a free society, by your logic.
They made a selection - people disagree with that selection. Get over it. Stop tetlling people what they can and cannot say.
If that hate results in more vulnerable road users dying because of the 'rights' of morons, that seems a shit society to me.
You might be happy with that balance in favour of what you perceive to be free speech. You might deserve to live in such a society. I'd rather not.
Forum trolls used to work harder in the olden days. Another sign of a snowflake generation...
I was with you until you used the trolls favourite insult!
"the olden days"?
Hating cyclists is acceptable because it is a choice you have made, in the face of the easy alternative, the car. You have already essentially chosen to annoy people, in their minds.
People hate you because you're fitter than than them, not fat like them, actually doing something fairly green which goes beyond making sure you recycle your cardboard, etc. It's basically as simple as it's not something I do, so therefore I probably don't like it. I still like playing video games, some people at work say they hate them....even though they don't actually play them to know they hate them. Maybe they'd also like cycling if they could just get on one.
"them"/"them cyclists", "you cyclists", replace 'cyclist' with nigger, paki, jew, 'gay' 'spaz/spastic' or even simply a whole sex of a race? Then throw in calling them "animals" and "trash" and other derogatory/hate filled comments and you have ostracisation, building of hate and physical and verbal attacks that are seen as normal and acceptable because 'popular' types are doing it/thinking that way so it all ok. And when the police/justice system/government do fuck all to stop that even more justifcation that it's fine and/or that you'll simply get away with it.
In fact how many asians, how many people with non white skin colour or who identified as preferring the opposite sex were attacked in broad daylight tens of thousands of times a day as a group with virtual impunity. How many were actually killed or injured by ordinary people on the street stone cold sober, how many were verbally abused, had a killing weapon aimed at them every single day and the police ignore it, every single time. That the police might even blame you for bringing it upon yourself for the attack because you didn't have the right clothing on, can you imagine that?
'you gays deserve it, you're all animals and trash, if you weren't out on the street taking space up on the pavement in your silly gay outfit and not wearing a stab vest then you deserve all you got'
Would that be in any way shape or form be acceptable, replace gay with cyclist, stab vest with helmet/hi-vis, pavement with road and you have pretty much what many people think if not say out loud.
In fact it's so bad that the police apply different sets of standards of behaviour and interpret the law differently, even judges and jurors, just like it was for people of non white skin colour BITD particularly the US (& probably still today to an extent). Do we not think that that was abhorrent and disgusting?
It's not just the snide remarks behind your back or in your face it's the deliberate killing and maiming, it's deliberate because people had a choice to do x or y, too often it's y which ends in harm, it's the deliberate intention to cause fear with a deadly weapon tens of thousands of times every single fucking day. It gets to the point that for some they can't deal with it any more and simply pack cycling in.
What is identified on this chat show is there ALL the time, you only have to see the bile and hate projected toward people riding bikes and how shit like this drives a wedge ever deeper and gives permission for people to behave the same and much worse.
People who don't see the big deal have no sodding idea whatsoever the damage this does and the indirect harm that comes from it. Inciting hatred against an outgroup, they should be fucking arrested never mind made to apologise!!
If you were on tv and suggested that all BMW drivers (although probably Audi now) drove like arseholes, and deserved every time their car was keyed, or any abuse they had shouting at them you'd very quickly end up in trouble, yet somehow cycling seems to be an acceptable target. There's no significant difference between the two, both have chosen their vehicle, there are a minority (possibly less of a minority in the case of the BMW driver) who break the law and act like an idiot, yet if someone spoke in the way they do about cyclists and suggested anything that happened to them was their own fault there'd be an outcry.
I dont think a couple of sad unfunny twats on a couch is going to have us heading for the gulags.
It might not, but when you get enough of this nonsense on TV and in the likes of the Daily Maily, the government will start taking note and introduce restrictions on cycling. Look at the annoucements about reviews of cycling laws after one pedestrian was killed by a cyclist. Look at the laws regarding helmets and bells etc that have been introduced in Australia.
I'm sorry I'm not buying that people are going to start changing their behaviour on the road because of some played out hacky material Clarkson was doing 15 years ago. Road users are going to be an arsehole on the road or they're going to be courteous either way I don't think that is going to sway them. People comparing it to racism is ludicrous. Lets all jump on the offended bus and head for the victim Olympics.
The problem is that the media carrying on like this makes those arseholes think that their behaviour is acceptable.
You've only got to look across the pond to the USA to see the effect of Trump making racist behaviour acceptable to prove the point.
That started under President Obama. BLM was born under his administration, his administration funded it, helped organize it. That led to rioting, looting, arson, and assaults on both police and innocent bystanders.
Things have been comparatively quiet with President Trump in charge. The race-baiting has gone from being a task of the federal government and is now the lowly domain of the ratings-starved media.
President Obama set the country back decades or more. It was shameful. And a lot of those supposed hate crimes the news runs with? Eventually it turns out that the "victim" was actually the perpetrator. And that's not unique to the US.
See, this is what happens when you let noddies repeat lies. That is the essence of advertising and propaganda: repeat something again and again until the weak-minded untermensch have their "reality" constructed for them.
This is exactly why Ryan Tubridy needs to be told to wind his floppy, attention-seeking neck in.
In addition the NAZIs, in addition to their other crimes tried to force cyclists off the roads into bike lanes for the convenience of motorists: http://pdeleuw.de/fahrrad/fdf/fdf-218.html
"In the Nazi era, the Radwegebau was integrated into the government and party propaganda as an important condition for the promotion of road transport. The National Socialist Motor Corps (NSKK) and the German Automobile Club (DDAC) support the Radwegebau.
In the "Reichs-Straßen-Verkehrs-Ordnung" (RStVO) introduced on 1.10.1934, cyclists, riders and pedestrians are considerably restricted the right to use the road: "If a road is designated for individual types of traffic (footpath, bicycle lane, bridleway) this traffic is restricted to the part of the road assigned to it. "
The cycle use obligation became the central disciplining tool for cyclists, although in the thirties they still had a clear majority over the drivers with a ratio of 20: 3. The intensive propaganda of the bicycle use obligation from 1934 suggests that the cyclists were not satisfied with the now established narrow bike paths with cheap, easily destructible surfaces and instead preferred to use the roadway. While the motorways of the Reich were celebrated as the "streets of Adolf Hitler," cycle paths were called the "little man's streets.""Show [to the upcoming 1936 Olympics] to the astonished foreigner a new proof of an emerging Germany, in which the driver not only on the highways, but on all roads by the cyclist free, safe track."
The show has been useless ever since Gaybo left it anyway.
American here, not a spectator across the pond. If you assault a cop or try to take their firearm then you're going to have a bad day. Incidents like that were twisted by the media and the administration leading to riots and chaos ultimately leading to more deaths, including assassinations of cops. Liberals have taken "repeat the lie" to heart with things like "hands up, don't shoot" that was a total fabrication of the media. You can call names all you want, but the we're not having it anymore. That's why we elected Trump. That's also why, under his administration, we haven't had much of that BS going on.
I have literally no idea what any of that means. Britain and the USA: two nations divided by a common language. I suppose it is asking a bit much expecting a Trump supporter to be clear, concise and unambiguous.
Neither does he. You are trying to have an dialogue with a what is in essence a monkey.
On the other hand, you've had a whole lot of other BS going on. Most of it seems to have been produced by your own commander in chief or his immediate friends and relations...
Are you saying that the fat bastard's doctor lied about his health so as not to be fired? That's a terrible slander on the racist commander in chief and his hard of thinking supporters.
Crap!
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