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Actor Eddie Marsan rants about cyclists ignoring red lights and bike lanes; New Cav deal looks unlikely; Calls for infra after crash; 1-0 Sam Bennett; Reaction to L2B train ban; Bad parking; AOC's cycling dress; Tour of Britain doc + more on the live blog

It's the middle of the week and Dan Alexander is here for your Wednesday dose of live blog action...
15 September 2021, 16:01
Brooklyn Bridge bike lane
15 September 2021, 14:57
"Next year Fabio Jakobsen will be our man for the Tour": Patrick Lefevere says Cav is looking to cash in as contract talks stall
2021 Tour de France Cavendish - 1 (1)

Patrick Lefevere's been saying things again. Sorry if you're bored — this time it's about Cav...

The Deceuninck-Quick-Step team boss told Belgian newspaper Het Laatste Nieuws that Cavendish is looking to cash in on his success, quotes that imply the 36-year-old may be closer to an exit than signing a new deal. Earlier this week whispers circled that Cav and Lefevere were struggling to agree terms for the Manxman to extend his stay, largely due to disagreements about financial terms and Tour de France participation.

That's despite the widely reported news that the team had offered Cav a one-year contract extension. Lefevere's latest comments show the pair still don't see eye-to-eye: "I respect Mark Cavendish. We saved his skin. We gave him all the tools. He took the challenge and he did it. And now it begins. Now he thinks it is time to cash in again.

"And then the next discussion begins, how much he should earn next year? That's a very difficult one, even for me. I can hardly give someone who wins four stages in the Tour and the green jersey, four stages in the Tour of Turkey and a stage in the Tour of Belgium the same wage as this year. Mark Cavendish has sky-high expectations in that regard and I'm very realistic. That's a difficult marriage.

"He's now starting to talk to me about his image. He says: 'with my image I am worth so much'. I say: 'your image in London is different from your image in West Flanders, with all due respect'. None of my West-Flemish sponsors are going to make amends to pay Mark Cavendish a higher wage for his image."

Another key sticking point appears to be Tour de France selection, something Lefevere cannot guarantee Cav, considering Fabio Jakobsen's meteoric reappearance at La Vuelta a España. Jakobsen won three stages and is seen as a safer bet by Lefevere...

"That's another thing. Mark always said the same thing: 'Next year it's up to Fabio, he's the fastest in the world, he's young, he has to go to the Tour'. Until he has now won four stages himself and has equalled Merckx's record.

"Now I feel that he wants to go to the Tour again next year. But I will not go to the Tour with two sprinters next year. Next year Fabio Jakobsen will be our man for the Tour. I understand him: imagine if he can win one more in the Tour, then Cavendish will go down in history. But should I take the risk of sacrificing someone who might be faster than Mark? For a record which is essentially of no use to us as a team. And then, if he breaks the record, he might ask me for a bonus too."

15 September 2021, 14:44
British Cycling announces routes for 2021 HSBC National Road Championships
Lincoln GP _ credit British Cycling.jpg

British Cycling has released details about this year's HSBC UK National Road Championships, which will be held in Lincoln from 14-17 October. The championships, in a slightly unusual autumn slot in the calendar, will decide who wears the national champions' jerseys and, for the first time, all time trial, circuit race and road race events will be held during the same week.

The road races are the main event, and both the men's an women's events will be held on Sunday 17 October and centre around the famous cobbled Michaelgate climb. The men will take in 13 laps (166km), the women eight (101km).

The time trial events are the first races of the week and will be contested on Thursday 14 October on a circuit with 500ft (152m) climbing per lap. This means the elite men will rack up 450m (1,500ft) of ascent during the 44.7km challenge. The women's race is 29.4km.

"Lincoln’s roads have played host to some momentous bike races over the past five decades," British Cycling CEO Brian Facer said. "Bringing the three championships together into a single week is great news for fans of our sport and highlights our commitment to evolving our major events."

15 September 2021, 13:59
Sonny Colbrelli shows off his new European champ's kit

It's just a shame that glorious Italian national champion's kit won't be seen again...also...is that Italian champ's Merida going to get scrapped, after just two months, for a European champ's paint job? If so, you know where to send the old one...

15 September 2021, 13:22
Actor Eddie Marsan rants about cyclists ignoring red lights and bike lanes

Nigel Havers and Christopher Biggins have company in the 'actors ranting about cyclists' club. The Happy-Go-Lucky and Hancock actor Eddie Marsan couldn't help but have a pop at cyclists jumping red lights...which, in turn, became a rant about bike lanes, cyclists filtering too close and the Highway Code. So close to the bingo full house...

Marsan's in good company in the club...

Since going quiet about the Kensington High Street cycle lane, Havers' This Morning segment has been pissing off popular restaurant critic Jay Rayner. While just the other week, Biggins was explaining why he voted for Brexit to Nigel Farage on GB News...

Anyway, rambling over, back to what you're here for. The inevitable replies which followed...

15 September 2021, 12:07
1-0 Sam Bennett? Sprinter named in Deceuninck-Quick-Step line-up

Someone get Patrick Lefevere somewhere to sit down...Sam Bennett has been named in the Deceuninck-Quick-Step squad for Friday's Kampioenschap van Vlaanderen just days after his boss accused him of "playing with his balls in public" and threatened a pay cut. Racing, and thus avoiding three months of inactivity, should see those threats fizzle out to nothing...

15 September 2021, 11:41
Paris-Roubaix Femmes route details announced

The first ever women's Paris-Roubaix is coming on Saturday 2 October. Race organiser ASO has released the full route details and confirmed the route will include 17 sectors of cobbles, covering the final 85km of the men's route and finishing in the iconic Roubaix velodrome.

The day will be 116.4km long and starts with three circuits around Denain, before joining the same route as the men after 31km. It means the women will race the five-star sectors Mons-en-Pévèle and Carrefour de l'Arbre. 

ASO also released the men's route, but it is pretty much unchanged from the brutal parcours fans will be used to seeing the peloton race.

15 September 2021, 11:15
Josh Quigley seven-day cycling distance world record attempt: 36 per cent of the way there

You fear the worst when a Josh Quigley video with an ambulance pops up on your timeline...sorry, Josh. You've got form on that front...

Thankfully it's nothing more than a bit of friendly roadside support as the endurance legend smashed day two of the record attempt. He's now up to 786 miles in two days...36 per cent of the record total. Just another 340-mile day yesterday...and possibly another today...and the day after...

Keep your fingers crossed that's the last paramedic he meets this week.

15 September 2021, 11:01
Relive the Tour of Britain with the Ineos Grenadiers

You can probably tell I'm a sucker for these behind the scenes at pro races vids that have become increasingly popular as team's beef up their YouTube output. Yesterday, we had Alex Dowsett's take on the opening few stages. Today, it's Ineos Grenadiers' entire race packaged neatly into one 14 minute video...a lunchtime treat.

15 September 2021, 10:06
"This stupid country in one short story": Reaction to London to Brighton bikes on trains ban

No shopping allowed on trains on Christmas Eve. No bikes allowed on trains on the day of London to Brighton. No bags allowed on trains over Glastonbury Festival weekend. Guess which one of these is real...

15 September 2021, 09:45
How not to park No. 4378

Some solutions...

Rory Meakin went for: "A rotary cutter to trim overhanging debris like this or a tow truck driving round looking for such things?"

Sonsu added: "Stiff fines the only solution. But as the police doesn’t do anything there won’t be any improvement any time soon." To which the aptly named 'You Park Like a C*nt' account replied: "Fines need to reflect the wrongdoer’s financial circumstances. Otherwise it’s just a punishment for the poor." 

15 September 2021, 08:38
What Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's dress really said...

'Tax the rich' on a dress? Maybe Jeremy Clarkson will rock up on Amazon wearing a 'tax the cyclists' coat? 

15 September 2021, 07:47
Calls for proper bike lane after Sheffield cyclist hit by turning driver

Saif was knocked down while riding past stationary traffic sat next to the empty bus lane. The video sparked a debate about who was at fault, with some saying the Range Rover driver's positioning made the situation worse, while others lay the blame solely with the Peugeot driver.

Either way, it's a scenario cyclists who ride regularly in urban areas have probably experienced at some point or other. What would have helped, as Saif points out, is some proper infrastructure on the Ecclesall Road.

Of course, getting infra's just one part of the puzzle...especially if it's done like the Cork cycle lane we featured on the blog recently. A local rider took their first spin down the new cycle lane...only to narrowly avoid being hit by two drivers. I think the emphasis here is on building proper infra...(and changing drivers' attitudes to cyclists).

Dan is the road.cc news editor and has spent the past four years writing stories and features, as well as (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. Having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for the Non-League Paper, Dan joined road.cc in 2020. Come the weekend you'll find him labouring up a hill, probably with a mouth full of jelly babies, or making a bonk-induced trip to a south of England petrol station... in search of more jelly babies.

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eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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Yet another celeb,  Eddie Marsan (who?) feels the need to criticise one group of road users, implying that they are worse than any other group; if only.  Maybe if he looked at the data for the number of people killed by each group, he'd stop spending quite so much time on cyclists, and look at the real problem; drivers.

Of course he won't; the hypocrite drives a car and he isn't really worried about the people killed and injured every day by them, he's just another cycle hater.

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Captain Badger | 2 years ago
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they’ve just installed two brilliant bike lanes for cyclists,

WELL FACKING GET ON YOUR FACKING BIKE AND FACKING USE THEM

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AidanR | 2 years ago
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I'm beginning to suspect that Patrick Lefevere is a bit of a dick.

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Secret_squirrel replied to AidanR | 2 years ago
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AidanR wrote:

I'm beginning to suspect that Patrick Lefevere is a bit of a dick.

Actually thats quite restrained and rational for him and makes brutal sense.  Talking to the press appears to be one of his major negotiating/positioning strategies, and coming fresh off of Sam Bennett turning back up for work after some trash talking he has reason to believe it works.  Very distasteful though.

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Organon replied to AidanR | 2 years ago
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The washing is all hanging out to dry. No way Cav is staying now.

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Awavey | 2 years ago
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Who is Eddie Marsan and why should I care what he tweets about ?

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brooksby replied to Awavey | 2 years ago
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He talks about the brilliant cycle lanes installed near him.  However, I wonder if he's ever used them?  I wonder if there's any particular reason, not obvious to someone who doesn't use them, for why cyclists don't all use them...?

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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Some googling states he lives in Chiswick, some other googling about new Chiswick cycle lanes mentions some temporary ones made permanent. Finally this piece from a cyclist proponent which seems to indicate why some more experienced cycists might not always use them.

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brooksby replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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Just read that piece - so I see that there is a reason why cyclists might not be using that shiny new cycle lane.

Also noted this bit:

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Two-way cycle lanes are already inherently more risky than single lane cycle routes, as there is a heightened risk of cyclists forgetting oncoming cyclists, and the risks associated with motorists who need to turn across these more multi-directional cycle lanes.  TFL is aware of this, as per their published consultancy reports on the subject, where their conclusions suggest that two-way cycle lanes should be used in only select instances, including 1/ along streets with active uses only on one side such as waterside locations or 2/ on streets where there are few side streets on one side.

Obviously explains why Bristol put their two-way cycle lane along the side of Baldwin Street (which has 'stuff' on both sides of the road) and on the side that has the majority of the side streets...

Hmm.

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PRSboy replied to Awavey | 2 years ago
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Awavey wrote:

Who is Eddie Marsan and why should I care what he tweets about ?

I've honestly no idea.  An actor apparently, but even having googled him I don't recognise him or the things he's been in.

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hawkinspeter replied to PRSboy | 2 years ago
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PRSboy wrote:

Awavey wrote:

Who is Eddie Marsan and why should I care what he tweets about ?

I've honestly no idea.  An actor apparently, but even having googled him I don't recognise him or the things he's been in.

I recognise him from The World's End (part 3 of the Cornetto trilogy) and looking on IMDB, he's done loads of stuff. I keep meaning to watch Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell which has him as Mr Norrell.

Anyhow, being a successful actor does not qualify him to know what he's talking about regarding transportation and by the look of things, he's clueless or getting paid to say certain things.

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brooksby replied to hawkinspeter | 2 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

PRSboy wrote:

Awavey wrote:

Who is Eddie Marsan and why should I care what he tweets about ?

I've honestly no idea.  An actor apparently, but even having googled him I don't recognise him or the things he's been in.

I recognise him from The World's End (part 3 of the Cornetto trilogy) and looking on IMDB, he's done loads of stuff. I keep meaning to watch Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell which has him as Mr Norrell.

Anyhow, being a successful actor does not qualify him to know what he's talking about regarding transportation and by the look of things, he's clueless or getting paid to say certain things.

If you enjoyed the book of Strange & Norrell, Peter, DO NOT watch the tv adaptation.  You have been warned.

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hawkinspeter replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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brooksby wrote:

If you enjoyed the book of Strange & Norrell, Peter, DO NOT watch the tv adaptation.  You have been warned.

Haven't read it, so I should be okay, though my to-watch list grows quicker than I can get through it.

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Captain Badger replied to hawkinspeter | 2 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

brooksby wrote:

If you enjoyed the book of Strange & Norrell, Peter, DO NOT watch the tv adaptation.  You have been warned.

Haven't read it, so I should be okay, though my to-watch list grows quicker than I can get through it.

Read the book. don't bother with the  series

Edit: REALLY don't bother with the series

But definitely read the book

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brooksby replied to Captain Badger | 2 years ago
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Captain Badger wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

brooksby wrote:

If you enjoyed the book of Strange & Norrell, Peter, DO NOT watch the tv adaptation.  You have been warned.

Haven't read it, so I should be okay, though my to-watch list grows quicker than I can get through it.

Read the book. don't bother with the  series

Edit: REALLY don't bother with the series

But definitely read the book

I'm only allowed to add one 'like', Cap'n; sorry 

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Awavey replied to PRSboy | 2 years ago
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Yep, I checked IMDb, I've seen stuff he's been in but not a name or face I recognise at all, and not sure why his twittering on cyclists is of note particularly other than hes continuing to argue about it after 3 days of back & forth with people !!

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Awavey | 2 years ago
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He is one of the "that guy" actors were they star in loads and people will go "oh it's that guy" but never know the name. I think the Americans call then "character actors" where people know them for their characters but not there real names. 

I suspect he did have a complaint about his a cyclist going through red when his kids were about to cross. Unfortunately he then decided to give a rant on other bits instead of leaving it there. 

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hawkinspeter replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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It's like when you're watching a programme and vaguely recognise an actor and then you suddenly realise that you've actually been Gary Oldman all the time!

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Rendel Harris replied to hawkinspeter | 2 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

It's like when you're watching a programme and vaguely recognise an actor and then you suddenly realise that you've actually been Gary Oldman all the time!

I can honestly say that I've never realised that I've actually been Gary Oldman all the time. If I do, can I have his money?

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hawkinspeter replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

It's like when you're watching a programme and vaguely recognise an actor and then you suddenly realise that you've actually been Gary Oldman all the time!

I can honestly say that I've never realised that I've actually been Gary Oldman all the time. If I do, can I have his money?

That's the power of his acting - you wouldn't even know until you suddenly hear a director's voice in the background saying 'cut' and the realisation dawns.

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Rendel Harris replied to hawkinspeter | 2 years ago
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To be fair I was wondering what that Oscar was doing in the downstairs lavatory…

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hawkinspeter replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

To be fair I was wondering what that Oscar was doing in the downstairs lavatory…

Usually one of two things

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kil0ran replied to PRSboy | 2 years ago
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Brilliant actor, one of our finest. Although I do tend to get him muddled up with Stephen Graham, in much the same way I struggle with Di Caprio & Damon.

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hawkinspeter replied to kil0ran | 2 years ago
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kil0ran wrote:

Brilliant actor, one of our finest. Although I do tend to get him muddled up with Stephen Graham, in much the same way I struggle with Di Caprio & Damon.

I loved Stephen Graham in Boardwalk Empire as Al Capone - he was superb. That series was stuffed full with great actors including the recently deceased Michael Kenneth Williams (also great in Lovecraft Country).

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kingleo replied to Awavey | 2 years ago
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Ask him what lawbreaking motorists do and what should be done to stop them from breaking the law.

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Benthic | 2 years ago
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Highway Code

3. Road junctions (170 to 183)

170. Take extra care at junctions. You should watch out for cyclists, motorcyclists, powered wheelchairs/mobility scooters and pedestrians as they are not always easy to see.

180. Wait until there is a safe gap between you and any oncoming vehicle. Watch out for cyclists, motorcyclists, pedestrians and other road users. 

183. When turning give way to any vehicles using a bus lane, cycle lane or tramway from either direction.

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Ride On replied to Benthic | 2 years ago
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Absolutely NOT your fault Saif. Just because you could have prevented it by riding extra cautiously does not make you culpable.

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Secret_squirrel | 2 years ago
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The Beeb have just picked up the Wiltshire rozzer fail :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-wiltshire-58558802

Grab your popcorn.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Secret_squirrel | 2 years ago
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Yep BBC stating cyclists had problem with his manovre and showing it to be actuially almost text book. Then they cut the video to show them surrounding the poor motorist when they "caught up" to him and not having to avoid piling into the back after he brake checks them. Anyone seeing that cut and description will be thinking cyclists are bullies protesting on an actually suprisingly safe manouvre considering what a wankstain he turned out to be (beep not withstanding). 

"Motorist punches cyclists in the head after braking suddently in front to complain about perfectly legal road use from them" is more apt. 

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hawkinspeter replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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Time for another BBC complaint, I reckon.

Edit: Just hammered out this complaint:

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The video shown of a driver punching a cyclist has been edited in a way that distorts what happened. The description also has "when they caught up to him", whereas the full video shows that the driver performed a "brake check" with the intention of causing the cyclists to collide with his car.

As the removed section was only 10-15 seconds in length, it raises the question as to why the BBC felt this was necessary unless they are trying to change the narrative to make it appear as though the cyclists were attempting to surround the car and intimidate the driver.

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