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I thought you were going to ignore me Rendel?

Never mind, It was enjoyable while it lasted.

I'm not going to resurrect the previous thread on here but I did leave a little explainer on there for the 'hard of thinking'.

Have a read, see if you can figure out why both those quoted statements might be correct...

Thanks but I think we've all had enough sheep recently ... in many ways.

EDIT - being fair, same comment to Rendel. My wooly mind has no more space for  ovine-emission-related debate.

I agree with Nick Chris.

I make exceptions when you show such stinking moronic supercilious hypocrisy. Honestly, you really do need to learn that whilst the Internet is an excellent learning resource, especially for the "hard of thinking" like yourself who could clearly do with all the learning they can get, cutting and pasting from it does not actually make you the expert in virtually every subject under the sun you appear to think it does.

You've missed an opportunity to educate yourself there Rendel.

Never mind.

Please go back to ignoring me now. I did prefer that.

No, I shall not be bothering trying to debate anything with you - because as we know, in Richworld only one person can ever be right, however many people prove him wrong - but I shall continue to point out your hypocrisy, arrogance and ignorance when I have time. Sorry about that, I know you like your internet C&P to be treated as gospel and for everyone simply to acknowledge your "expertise". I can't do it for every example of course, that would be a full time job.

I actually quite enjoy making a fool out of you Rendel.

Debating a wealthy white Londoner with a ludicrous sense of entitlement can be tedious at times but watching you slink off tail between your legs time after time after time is really quite cathartic.

If you're just going to insult me and not engage in debate though... Wouldn't that just make you a troll?

Ah bless, sorry if you feel insulted when your hypocrisy, ignorance and stupidity is pointed out. Perhaps try being less hypocritical, ignorant and stupid?

Rendel Harris wrote:

Ah bless, sorry if you feel insulted when your hypocrisy, ignorance and stupidity is pointed out. Perhaps try being less hypocritical, ignorant and stupid?

I think you'll enjoy this one.

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Rich_cb wrote:

 I think you'll enjoy this one.

I absolutely do as it's a tremendous exemplar of your utter hypocrisy, in the last hour you've attacked me personally for my ethnicity, my place of birth and residence, and my supposed wealth (God knows where you got that bullshit from, I wish you were right). I take it you are tacitly acknowledging your lack of any argument?

P.S. I did not grow up in West London, nor have I ever lived there.

Not an attack Rendel, just pointing out the many facets of your privilege.

The immensely privileged Left Wing Londoner is a bit of an amusing stereotype after all.

Anyway, please leave me alone.

I'm growing tired of your obsession now.

Rich_cb wrote:

I'm growing tired of your obsession now.

Rich, I suggest that ‘obsession’ might apply to you too.

Careful with the company you keep. Just remember the theory of ‘your enemy’s enemy is your friend’ is not very attractive.

Take a look at who instigated this interaction.

You can check other threads too

I will not be responding to any of his nonsense anymore so it will soon be pretty clear who the obsessive is.

I've got no problem interacting with Nige, we disagree on a lot of things but he's polite to me and our discussions are always civil.

I actually like hearing from people with very different opinions to my own, challenges me to justify those opinions.

Live and let live.

Rich_cb wrote:

I've got no problem interacting with Nige, we disagree on a lot of things but he's polite to me and our discussions are always civil.

Nigel uses you for cover on his 'trolling mission' You are being used, wake up.

On the other matters, I didn't say you were solely to blame, just look in the mirror please.

You couldn't even answer me without a 'Mum, he started it'.

The reason I point this out is that we have managed to have interesting discussions in the past without necessarily agreeing. While our views are often different you do sometimes give me something to think about.

On this thread you may have let yourself down.

Sniffer wrote:

On this thread you may have let yourself down.

This has not been my finest hour, I agree.
Hence the lack of interaction from now on.

If Nige is capable of civil and interesting interactions with me then maybe others can try my approach?

Engage when interested, don't engage if not.

Works for me.

Rich_cb wrote:

I actually quite enjoy making a fool out of you Rendel.

You may make yourself look a bit foolish too in the process though.

Maybe.

Worth it to take him down a peg or two though.

He's led such a privileged sheltered little life he can't even handle basic disagreement.

Très amusant it is.

Rich_cb wrote:

Maybe. Worth it to take him down a peg or two though. He's led such a privileged sheltered little life he can't even handle basic disagreement. Très amusant it is.

Ooh - is it going to be like the Yorkshireman sketch now between the pair of you? Will he just send the Thatcher quote straight back?

I've forgotten what this thread was about now anyway so that's something...

That would be amusing!

I look forward to Rendel's tale of immense hardship growing up in leafy West London.

Hopefully he'll just go back to leaving me alone though.

I did prefer that.

It's certainly possible

There's definitely something at the root of his unpleasantness.

Rich_cb wrote:

It's certainly possible There's definitely something at the root of his unpleasantness.

It's splendid that the only person you can get to back you up is an alt-right Trump fanboy fantasist cyclist hater who has used (at least) six different aliases on this website and been banned numerous times. If a man is judged by the company he keeps, boy are you in trouble.

Goodbye Rendel.

I'm happy to engage in genuine debate but any future posts that are just insulting or pointless (see above) will be ignored.

You mean like your ones attacking someone for their ethnicity and place of birth/residence? Suits me if you don't respond little man, it won't stop me calling you on your unpleasant rightist lies as they arise though.

Nikolai wrote:

Russian athletes are in a difficult position, but if they want to compete, they must, as individuals, renounce the actions of the Kremlin.

The 'Great loyalty oath crusade' section of Catch 22 covers this quite well. When you mandate that state a certain position, the statements become meaningless.