Questions asked after another police force keen to highlight crackdown on cyclists jumping red lights

they will enforce the laws that are easy to enforce. If a crime is reported for example that Requires even a small amount of investigation i.e. a couple of statements they'll just bin it off.Something wrong with The calibre of  who they're recruiting these days. Then again ,he was a good lad,you know,that Couzens fella...

wtjs wrote:

It would be nice if the police ceased failing to act against RLJ drivers- even though I haven't yet caught any exceeding Rendel's 3 seconds after the lights turned red!

It's not "my" rule, that's what I was told by a Met officer! I'd be happy for anyone who goes through red at any time to be sanctioned.

Yup, the Met have told me this, at least 2 seconds otherwise the Magistrate will give the driver the benefit of the doubt apparently, even though they've already had 3 seconds of Amber to stop as required. Sigh

the Met have told me this, at least 2 seconds otherwise the Magistrate will give the driver the benefit of the doubt
There's a lot of this about being 'told'- now somebody should show us where any police force has written down anything about a free pass for going through traffic lights X seconds after they turned red!

There's one junction on my commute where I like counting how many cars go through the red lights - a traffic light controlled junction between the A369 (Abbots Leigh Road) and the B3129 (Beggar Bush Lane).

https://goo.gl/maps/N4qjwoym5PH1Fcrr5 - this is a streetview travelling toward Bristol, with Bebbar Bush Lane being the road going off to the right.

In the evenings, there are ALWAYS two or three cars which jump the red lights either going toward Bristol or into Beggar Bush Lane.

I like counting how many cars go through the red lights
This sounds to be a junction like 'mine'- no cyclists go through these on red because they would soon be dead- that type of junction must be in cities with loads of other lights around and slow moving traffic. The offence of 50+mph vehicles coming through lights 2 seconds after they turned red persists because the police don't view it as a serious offence

brooksby wrote:

There's one junction on my commute where I like counting how many cars go through the red lights - a traffic light controlled junction between the A369 (Abbots Leigh Road) and the B3129 (Beggar Bush Lane).

https://goo.gl/maps/N4qjwoym5PH1Fcrr5 - this is a streetview travelling toward Bristol, with Bebbar Bush Lane being the road going off to the right.

In the evenings, there are ALWAYS two or three cars which jump the red lights either going toward Bristol or into Beggar Bush Lane.

I often cycle along Beggar Bush Lane and turn right (towards Bristol) at that junction but have not seen any RLJing there - must be a rush hour thing.

My vote for worst lights for RLJing would be at Temple Gate roundabout. Interested parties could just sit there and catch vehicles RLJing all day long

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4479818,-2.5826971,3a,75y,132.86h,81.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siUT8t-Ltft1Qj-ivpQC93w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
(sorry for the big lorry in the way)

The RLJs with motors tend to be the ones going straight on (Bristol --> Portishead or vice versa) or the ones turning left into Beggar Bush Lane.

Oh! Wait! that's all the options.

Yeah, maybe it is a (particularly evening) rush hour thing...

PS - and this is a junction with beg buttons if you don't have a motor.  If you press the button, then you get slotted in at a point in the lights cycle (the same point, so you may be waiting a long time).  And, to go straight on on the shared-use path travelling from Bristol toward Portishead means you have to press three separate beg buttons 

Here are the results of the worst RLJing location - 184 a day. UK roads where the most drivers are caught running red lights revealed | This is Money . I read somewhere that up to 12m drivers are issues with FPN per annum in the UK.  I dont have a problem with this promotion of police legit stopping cyclists RLJing as it addresses the "cylists jump red lights with impunity" mantra i hear all the time.

brooksby wrote:

There's one junction on my commute where I like counting how many cars go through the red lights - a traffic light controlled junction between the A369 (Abbots Leigh Road) and the B3129 (Beggar Bush Lane).

https://goo.gl/maps/N4qjwoym5PH1Fcrr5 - this is a streetview travelling toward Bristol, with Bebbar Bush Lane being the road going off to the right.

In the evenings, there are ALWAYS two or three cars which jump the red lights either going toward Bristol or into Beggar Bush Lane.

There's two similar junctions on Cable Street in London - yesterday there were about three or four motor vehicles parked (not moving) on each junction when the lights changed to the cycle phase.  On a normal day I usually see two or three go through on amber and a few more on red.  I dread to think how many go through each day.

hawkinspeter wrote:

I'm still not buying the "giving anti-cycling people free ammunition". You don't hear Highway Code protesters complaining about speeding drivers giving cyclists free ammunition, do you?

You're forgetting that we are part of a homogenous hive mind. But then of course, so was I...

You are only stating what we are all thinking...

Captain Badger wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

I'm still not buying the "giving anti-cycling people free ammunition". You don't hear Highway Code protesters complaining about speeding drivers giving cyclists free ammunition, do you?

You're forgetting that we are part of a homogenous hive mind. But then of course, so was I...

Resistance is futile...